<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Jonathan, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am resending it (was not processed by gnso-rpm-wg@ list).</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think lifetime lock (if at all) should be limited to the lifetime of the TM registration, <div class="">to avoid dumping of some strings for no reason (when there is no TM holder to protect, </div><div class="">what is the reason for locking?)<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, all registrations terms are limited to the time of Registry contract with ICANN (10 years), so at the best it can be 10 years, and not a single day more.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So either we do not use this idea, or we will have to create mechanism of removing such lifetime-10years-lock, preferably using the current system</div><div class="">(for example, TM database to which URS complainant of that time referred to , does not have the entry no more, </div><div class="">so the party seeking for the registration can start a process, might be even with the same price of filing via the same URS provider, or it's successor).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">p.s: any kind of such lock can be overridden by a simple village court in the same jurisdiction as the particular registry is based.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Sep 2018, at 20:59, Jonathan Frost <<a href="mailto:jonathan@get.club" class="">jonathan@get.club</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">For instance, there is ambiguity about what action a registry should take when a domain which is already the subject of a URS judgement & lifetime lock receives a UDPR judgement that requires unlock & transfer. The URS rules don't account for this situation, and by their letter, require that the domain not be unlocked. However, the registries are also required to comply with consensus policies (such as UDRP).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jonathan</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:47 PM Doug Isenberg <<a href="mailto:Doug@giga.law" class="">Doug@giga.law</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_1693395293481848203m_3817944260056317199WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">What are some of the “ambiguities in complying with the rules”?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Doug<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Frost<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:15 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank" class="">icann@leap.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] URS / UDRP proposals -- data on registrar/registry compliance costs<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I agree that Registries and Registrars need to be able to recover the cost of administering the URS/UDRPs, as part of the filing fee. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The costs that the Registries/Registrars bear actually goes beyond what Reg has said. There are situations where we have to go to outside counsel or even ICANN to resolve ambiguities in complying with the rules. Additionally, the 24 hour action requirement on locking a domain that has received a URS complaint actually increases the resources that have to be dedicated, beyond the actual number of minutes per complaint, because compliance personal has to allocate/reserve a certain time per day to perform the tasks, even if no complaint is received that day.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Just like the arbitration administrators charge a cost recovery fee for administration as part of the filing fee, it's just common since that the Registries/Registrars would too. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan Frost<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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