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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='color:black'>Please see below the action items and notes captured by staff from the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span>RPM PDP Working Group<span style='color:black'> call held on</span> 12 October<span style='color:black'> 2018 (</span>17:00-19:00<span style='color:black'> UTC). Staff have posted to the wiki space the action items and notes. <b><i>Please note that these </i></b></span><b><i>are<span style='color:black'> high-level notes and are not meant as a substitute for the recording</span>, chat room, or transcript</i></b><i><span style='color:black'>.</span></i><span style='color:black'> The recording, AC chat,</span> transcript<span style='color:black'> and attendance records are posted on the wiki<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>at</span>: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2018-10-12+Review+of+all+Rights+Protection+Mechanisms+%28RPMs%29+in+all+gTLDs+PDP+WG">https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2018-10-12+Review+of+all+Rights+Protection+Mechanisms+%28RPMs%29+in+all+gTLDs+PDP+WG</a>. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>See also the proposals at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/URS+Proposals">https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/URS+Proposals</a>. In addition, the schedule for ICANN63 is attached and will be sent separately.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='color:black'>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>Julie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>==</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>NOTES & ACTION ITEMS</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chair: Phil Corwin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1. Review Agenda/Statements of Interest Updates: No updates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2. Discussion of Individual URS Proposals (See: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/aACNBQ">https://community.icann.org/x/aACNBQ</a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George Kirikos (#23): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/93126760/URS-Proposal-23.pdf?api=v2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Provider opposed to the proposal. Not just the fee, but also the cost of the system.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Don't support including in the Initial Report.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Cost of doing business. Providers are absorbing costs already.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Question: Clarify ICANN's role. Would open up a Pandora's box with ICANN subsidizing the cost of doing business.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Question: Why should the rights of a trademark owner depend on the non-payment of fees and is there a danger that registrars might deliberately not collect those fees. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Support the proposal. The providers get paid for their work; as a matter of equity this proposal makes sense.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Support putting the proposal out for public comment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- If it does go out for public comment we should be careful what we are asking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- The registrars and registries are not parties to the URS and UDRP, but that they may be involved in tracking down customers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- It was suggested why don't the registrars charge the registrant? GoDaddy is attempting to charge registrants because they can't charge the URS provider. This creates an additional burden on a registrant.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George Kirikos (#32): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/93126760/URS-Proposal-32.pdf?api=v2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Opposed to the proposal; concern is not with the proposal itself -- will the proposal be included as is, or also secondary facts? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Okay to send for public comment but it is out of scope.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Support to include for public comment, but think it is in scope.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- In what format will these go out for public comment, but if the case should be maintained for retaining URS that should be included. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Put this out for public comment to see what the public thinks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George Kirikos (#33): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/93126760/URS-Proposal-33.pdf?api=v2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- URS is not consensus policy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Question: An MOU is a contract so what is the problem we are trying to solve? What are the terms that are not being met?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- STI Report was not consensus policy so its recommendation didn't go into the AGB.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Not in favor of going out for public comment because based on a false premise, that an MOU is not a contract and not enforceable. Also, it is an implementation question.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Could revise as a proposal that there should be further requirements on providers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Would like to see regular review of the providers and support putting out for public comment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Favor for public comment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Favor formal contracts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Favor putting out for comment.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Issue whether having them under contract is very important.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George Kirikos and Zak Muscovitch (#34): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/93126760/URS-Proposal-34.pdf?api=v2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- As it is written it is the language of wherever the registrant is located so not sure how that helps the registrant; also what about the time required?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- How to translate form cover documents? How much time required?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Timing could be taken into consideration in changes to the policy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- How UDRP handles language is reflected in this proposal. There is nothing new.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Registrants are protected because panelists would have to be prepared to appoint panelists in the language of the registration. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Translation costs are same as for the UDRP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>For Initial Report for public comment:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- Low bar of adequate support. Staff is reviewing chats and transcripts and Co-Chairs will share a draft of whether/how proposals will be included in the Initial Report.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- We are looking for people to chime in to make proposals better.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- After Initial Report and public comment if proposals have substantial opposition or lack of consensus will not go into the Final Report.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3. ICANN63 Schedule (see attached) <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>