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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Co-chairs, Staff and WG members, please see below a revised proposal regarding Question #7 (TMCH/Design Marks):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1;background:white">As per Greg’s proposal, where a design mark with words disclaims >>all<< words, it<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>does not</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>enter
TMCH.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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initial;background-repeat:initial initial">
As per Greg’s proposal, where a design mark with words disclaims >>some but not all words<< it<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>does<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></i>enters the TMCH. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Where a design mark with words is permitted into the TMCH, it entitles the mark holder to a Claims Notice, but not a Sunrise priority.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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The Claims Notice would have to specify inter alia, that it is notifying prospective registrants of someone claiming to have rights corresponding to the domain name, but that not in all cases does having a design mark confer rights over the words inside, or
something to that effect. <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Design marks consisting of a single letter, e.g. a stylized or graphical “i”, whether disclaimed or not, do not go into the TMCH.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This proposal has been circulated amongst some stakeholders for feedback (with mixed results), however I am now sharing it with the entire Working Group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><br>
Zak Muscovitch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">General Counsel, ICA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Muscovitch Law P.C.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">zak@muscovitch.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1-866-654-7129<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">416-924-5084<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.trademarks-canada.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://www.trademarks-canada.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zak Muscovitch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September-04-19 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lori Schulman <lschulman@inta.org>; Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com>; julie.hedlund@icann.org; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Attached is the redline version. Apologies for only sending it now.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Zak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Muscovitch Law P.C.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">zak@muscovitch.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1-866-654-7129<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">416-924-5084<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.trademarks-canada.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://www.trademarks-canada.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.muscovitch.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://www.muscovitch.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://dnattorney.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://dnattorney.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org">lschulman@inta.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> September-04-19 12:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Corwin, Philip <<a href="mailto:pcorwin@verisign.com">pcorwin@verisign.com</a>>; Zak Muscovitch <<a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com">zak@muscovitch.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">
gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Support Phil’s suggestion and a post call redline per my earlier message.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Lori S. Schulman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Senior Director, Internet Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">International Trademark Association (INTA)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">+1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Corwin, Philip <<a href="mailto:pcorwin@verisign.com">pcorwin@verisign.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com">zak@muscovitch.com</a>; Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org">lschulman@inta.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">
gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Zak:<br>
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As we reviewed all the proposals last week, I would suggest that you focus in your presentation on what changes you and Kathy have made to the original and the rationale for doing so.<br>
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Philip S. Corwin<br>
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Policy Counsel<br>
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VeriSign, Inc.<br>
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12061 Bluemont Way<br>
Reston, VA 20190<br>
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703-948-4648/Direct<br>
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571-342-7489/Cell<br>
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"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<br>
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From: GNSO-RPM-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org%3e">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> On Behalf Of Zak Muscovitch<br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:36 PM<br>
To: Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org%3e">lschulman@inta.org></a>; Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org%3e">julie.hedlund@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<br>
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Lori, I'm trying to get one together, not sure I will be able to unfortunately. <br>
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Muscovitch Law P.C.<br>
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<a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com">zak@muscovitch.com</a><br>
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1-866-654-7129<br>
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416-924-5084<br>
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<a href="http://www.trademarks-canada.com/">http://www.trademarks-canada.com/</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.muscovitch.com/">https://www.muscovitch.com/</a><br>
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<a href="https://dnattorney.com/">https://dnattorney.com/</a><br>
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From: Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org%3e">lschulman@inta.org></a>
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Sent: September-04-19 12:08 PM<br>
To: Zak Muscovitch <<a href="mailto:zak@muscovitch.com%3e">zak@muscovitch.com></a>; Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org%3e">julie.hedlund@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<br>
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Hi,<br>
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Thank you for this. As this is so close to the call, do you have a redline so we can compare the changes quickly? It would be most helpful to be prepared on a quick notice.<br>
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From: GNSO-RPM-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org%3e">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> On Behalf Of Zak Muscovitch<br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 11:45 AM<br>
To: Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org%3e">julie.hedlund@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<br>
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Dear Co-Chairs, Working Group Members, and Staff,<br>
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Further to the call last week and further to the below Agenda for today's call, please see the attached updated proposal re: Question #7, from Kathy Kleiman and myself.
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You will note therein, that the revised proposal contains some revised language, some revised rationale, and a potential alternative to the existing rule for discussion purposes.<br>
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Zak Muscovitch<br>
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General Counsel, ICA<br>
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From: GNSO-RPM-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org%3e">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund<br>
Sent: September-03-19 1:02 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC<br>
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Dear RPM WG members, <br>
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Please find the agenda and materials for the WG meeting tomorrow, Wednesday, 04 September at 17:00-18:30 UTC.
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Please note the following actions captured from last week's meeting and sent to the list last week:<br>
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Actions:<br>
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1. Revision of Existing Proposals: For consideration at the meeting on Wednesday, 04 September, RPM PDP WG members who had previously submitted proposals relating to the Open TMCH Questions (see attached) may offer revised proposals that take into consideration
the work completed by the WG since the proposals were originally submitted.<br>
2. New Proposals: For consideration at the meeting on Wednesday, 04 September, RPM PDP WG members may submit new proposals relating to Charter questions 7, 8, and 10.<br>
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Please send suggested revisions or new proposals by COB today, 03 September, if at all possible.<br>
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Proposed Agenda:<br>
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1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest<br>
2. Proposals relating to Open TMCH Charter Questions (see attached Summary document. It is the same as the May 2017 version but with formatting for readability and text from relevant TMCH and AGB references):
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* Question 7 - Proposals from Kathy Kleiman and Greg Shatan<br>
* Question 8 - Proposals from Paul McGrady, Kathy Kleiman, Jonathan Agmon, and Claudio di Gangi<br>
* If Time Permits: Question 10 - Proposal from Michael Graham<br>
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3. AOB<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Mary, Julie, Ariel <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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