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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please see below the action items captured by staff from the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>RPM PDP Working Group<span style="color:black"> call held on</span> 10 October 2019 at 17:00 UTC<span style="color:black">.
Staff </span>will post<span style="color:black"> these to the wiki space. <b><i>Please note that these
</i></b></span><b><i>are<span style="color:black"> high-level notes and are not meant as a substitute for the recording</span>, chat room, or transcript</i></b><i><span style="color:black">.</span></i><span style="color:black"> The recording, Zoom chat,</span>
transcript<span style="color:black"> and attendance records are posted on the wiki<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>at</span>:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2019-10-10+Review+of+all+Rights+Protection+Mechanisms+%28RPMs%29+in+all+gTLDs+PDP+WG">
https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2019-10-10+Review+of+all+Rights+Protection+Mechanisms+%28RPMs%29+in+all+gTLDs+PDP+WG</a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
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Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">==</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>NOTES & ACTION ITEMS</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Actions:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Open and Deferred TMCH Charter Questions:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><u>Q 7</u>: Include both proposals (Shatan and Kleiman/Muscovitch) in the Initial Report for public comment.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><u>Q8</u>:
<span style="color:black">Agree to a proposal that section 3.2.4 should be a completely separate section. Clarify at a structural level. Move forward as a recommendation for the Initial Report.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><u>Q12</u>:
<span style="color:black">Ask Maxim Alzoba to send his proposal to the list for consideration and adding to the archives/record.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6"><u>Q13</u>:
<span style="color:black">Put the proposal (Karanicolas) in the Initial Report for public comment noting pros and cons from deliberations</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Discussion of whether individual URS proposals should be revisited by the WG, and methodology for doing so.
</span></b><span style="color:black">See the draft survey at:<b> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_kak3MEWFTNeq69wN9&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=36glY4CKyg4JCvpnCKFaXpx9PW_r5RObgdpcO0mtVM8&s=pEK5aTpdV-IIoTgVC0PHNGEZ969HY26RoiVzAAphdcw&e=" title="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_kak3MEWFTNeq69wN9&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=36glY4CKyg4JCvpnCKFaXpx9PW_r5RObgdpcO0mtVM8&s=pEK5aTpdV-IIoTgVC0PHNGEZ9">survey
[forms.gle]</a> </b>and </span>see email from Co-Chairs to WG: <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2019-October/003931.html">
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2019-October/003931.html</a>: <span style="color:black">
Continue discussion on the list and put on the agenda for a meeting on Wednesday, 16 October.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">1. Updates to Statements of Interest:
</span>Steve Levy had an update. See: INSERT.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">2. Conclude discussion of proposals relating to Open TMCH Charter Questions (see attached document):</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">a. Revised Proposal(s) re: Charter Question 7: Proposal submitted by Greg Shatan for Q7 (1 Oct 2019):
<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/109482780/Comparison%20of%20Revised%20Proposal%20to%20Original%20Proposal.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1570727625020&api=v2">
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/109482780/Comparison%20of%20Revised%20Proposal%20to%20Original%20Proposal.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1570727625020&api=v2</a></span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Greg added a preamble to make his proposal parallel the proposal from Kleiman/Muscovitch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Clarifies the nature of the disagreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Principle differences between the proposals so include both in the Initial Report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- The last version of the AGB uses “word mark” but it was originally “text mark”. Whatever the WG decides some kind of definition is a good idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- I wouldn’t rely on either “text mark” or “word mark” to have a well understood “term of art” meaning, especially globally. So if we stick with the current term, the focus is squarely on the definitional issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- This proposal could be simplified by removing the “word mark”/”text mark” aspects (delete #1).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- ACTION: Include both proposals in the Initial Report al for comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">b. Revised Proposal(s) re: Charter Question 8: Proposal submitted by Claudio DiGangi for Q8 (1 Oct 2019) and Proposal submitted by Rebecca Tushnet for Q8 (1 Oct 2019), with comments from Paul Tattersfield:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Core struggle is the question of what it a trademark.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Also discussion about trying to do something else. The concern is what about these other things that don’t say they are trademarks in statutes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Seems like a non-issue because examples all seem to be trademarks somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Paul Tattersfield: Has to be specified in a statute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Seems that there are bunch of laws around the world that specify GIs. If there is a national law (such as tequila in Mexico) are we okay with that?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Currently the AGB apparently *requires* databases to be nonexclusive; we should be clear about whether we want to change that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- 3.2.4 is needed</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black"> --
</span><span style="color:black">any mark that isn't part of the RPMs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- It seems as though the basic change ought to be simply NOT including 3.2.4 in the chronological listing; but to explain what it includes elsewhere. So it’s clear that the three categories before it are the
ones that qualify for mandatory Sunrise and Claims.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- 3.2.4 seems to be an over the edge case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Current 4.1 of the AGB seems to require that anything run by the TMCH be non-exclusive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- If 3.2.4 can be divorced from the other sections, that would be a big help in clarifying this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- 3.2.4 could certainly be moved to 3.6 as, say, 3.6.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Right, and maintain the distinction between marks that enter the TMCH for mandatory Sunrise and Claims, and marks that enter the TMCH for other registry-voluntary services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- 75 as of Feb 2017.</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">
</span>
<span style="color:black">And they had no way of deciding which of the 75 are, or are not, considered GIs under specific laws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- ACTION: Agree to a proposal that section 3.2.4 should be a completely separate section. Clarify at a structural level. Move forward as a recommendation for the Initial Report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">3. Discussion of Deferred Charter Questions (see the attached Status of WG Discussions on Agreed TMCH Charter Questions):</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">a. TMCH Category 4: Costs & Other Fundamental Features: Charter Questions 12 & 13 – Action: Staff to see if there are data on TMCH outages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Question 12:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- From Maxim: I came to the conclusion that another option is for the single TMCH operator to have a better design of the system which effectively creates two virtual TMCH operators (with the synchronization and
proper redundancy).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- ACTION: Ask Maxim to send his proposal to the list for consideration and adding to the archives/record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Question 13: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- Doesn’t seem to be a concern. Cost allocations might be fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">b. TMCH Category 5: Access & Accessibility: Charter Question 15 – Proposal submitted by Michael Karanicolas for Q15 (<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/109482780/Transparency%20Proposal%20Rev.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1569963124000&api=v2">1
Oct 2019</a>)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- I went back to check this with my members. They still oppose it being open as their choice of what TMs to put/not out into the TMCH is part of their commercial and/or enforcement strategy.</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">
</span><span style="color:black">*not
put<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- ACTION: Put the proposal in the Initial Report for public comment noting pros and cons from deliberations</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">4. Discussion of whether individual URS proposals should be revisited by the WG, and methodology for doing so. See the draft survey at: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_kak3MEWFTNeq69wN9&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=36glY4CKyg4JCvpnCKFaXpx9PW_r5RObgdpcO0mtVM8&s=pEK5aTpdV-IIoTgVC0PHNGEZ969HY26RoiVzAAphdcw&e=" title="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_kak3MEWFTNeq69wN9&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=36glY4CKyg4JCvpnCKFaXpx9PW_r5RObgdpcO0mtVM8&s=pEK5aTpdV-IIoTgVC0PHNGEZ9">survey
[forms.gle]</a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- See email from Co-Chairs to WG: <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2019-October/003931.html">
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2019-October/003931.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Continue discussion during the meeting on 16 October.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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