<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">It seems pretty generous to me to describe the secrecy of the TMCH as a “consensus policy” (would love it if you could show me exactly when and how that specific idea attained consensus) - but that’s not an issue we need to revisit in any depth. <div><br></div><div>Rather, I would suggest we stick to the substance of the comments we got back, and avenues forward.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Michael<br><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 20, 2020, at 6:49 PM, cking@modernip.com wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">Respectfully, I believe this would be a waste of our remaining time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">The Proposal had significant opposition (at least as much opposition as support). As well, consensus has never been reached in discussions by the full working group or (2) subgroups.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">As consensus is needed to change an RPM that is itself the result of consensus discussions; and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">As we haven’t been close to consensus in the working group, sub-groups or public comments; then<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif">I suggest we complete our review concentrating on Proposals where consensus may still be possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D">Cyntia King<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D">O: +1 816.633.7647<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D">C: +1 818.209.6088<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D"><div><image001.jpg></div><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Schaeffer<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 20, 2020 11:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] REMINDER: Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - 21 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">In advance of tomorrow’s call, I am requesting that we continue discussion on the <u>merits</u> of TMCH Question #7. Upon reflection, at the end of the last WG call, we neither discussed the public comments nor debated the underlying merits of the positions regarding opening of the TMCH.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As we are all aware, we are not debating whether or not there has been abuse of the TMCH. The only question is how much abuse has occurred. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Further, those opposed to opening the TMCH DB to oversight appear to object on the basis that cybersquatters and wrongdoers will abuse the newly opened DB. It does not appear that <u>anyone</u> rejects having oversight of the TMCH or an ability to ensure that it is operating correctly (without abuse). Moreover, Deliotte itself commented that the TMCH should transition from a closed to open and searchable DB with the understanding that it is up to the ICANN Community to make the determination. I recall we had discussed some compromise positions that were being considered as a way to bring oversight while protecting against cybersquatters.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Accordingly, I request that we be prepared to continue the discussion on the merits of TMCH Question 7 and find a workable position as a WG to review the TMCH and avoid abuse.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jason<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> GNSO-RPM-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Hedlund<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 20, 2020 10:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [GNSO-RPM-WG] REMINDER: Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - 21 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear RPM WG members, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">As a reminder, p<span style="color:black">lease find the </span>updated <span style="color:black">proposed agenda and materials below for the <b><i><u>full WG</u></i></b> meeting </span><b>Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Mary, Ariel, and Julie<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GNSO-RPM-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:10 PM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - 21 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear RPM WG members, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">P<span style="color:black">lease find the </span>updated <span style="color:black">proposed agenda and materials below for the <b><i><u>full WG</u></i></b> meeting </span><b>Tuesday, 21 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Draft Proposed Agenda:<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1"><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Revisit Discussion of TMCH Proposals <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1QTt-5Fm5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-2DyJgODCex8bj-5F-2DaKO7fI_edit-23gid-3D722865735&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=h-YCBbNQ0yFiF6hJviEdwDqUSzbkMEsFvHqD1z4Ix4A&s=71WyjyE0FtdOQ-oBUlPy1zQhKqCIXHZte-NxaS3p7BU&e=">#4 [docs.google.com]</a> and <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1QTt-5Fm5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-2DyJgODCex8bj-5F-2DaKO7fI_edit-23gid-3D1604477707&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=adDIs0WEx_lLwFfrsdovxTYY8GkRHo5ibc8SR3Npdh8&m=h-YCBbNQ0yFiF6hJviEdwDqUSzbkMEsFvHqD1z4Ix4A&s=X--O_xLLIbaYclLWQ4pesNriqcBfp-AOHvDXsW1FmDI&e=">#5 [docs.google.com]</a>, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_-aKO7fI/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!sweUru0Zq__8MpVGAXJZqoIsAwrRgtO7K4ya1bssd0_iehbe0JkxZID5z67DJZ9YvzpJBRmKzw$">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_-aKO7fI/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a> and the table of contents on the first tab; see also the message on the email distribution list at: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2020-July/004344.html">[GNSO-RPM-WG] Simplified language to bring together individual TMCH #4 & #5 proposals </a><a name="4344"> </a> <i>Paul Tattersfield</i><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Review of Overarching Questions #1 and #3 (<i>skipping #2</i>) and Additional Overarching Questions #1, #2, and #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzScCtj01fw/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!sweUru0Zq__8MpVGAXJZqoIsAwrRgtO7K4ya1bssd0_iehbe0JkxZID5z67DJZ9YvzqIpK5g9w$">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzScCtj01fw/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a> and the table of contents on the first tab<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2 (time permitting), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzScCtj01fw/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!sweUru0Zq__8MpVGAXJZqoIsAwrRgtO7K4ya1bssd0_iehbe0JkxZID5z67DJZ9YvzqIpK5g9w$">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzScCtj01fw/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a> and the table of contents on the first tab<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">AOB<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mary, Julie, Ariel</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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