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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kathy,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies, but Griffin provided his edits two days ago and the deadline was clearly today at 16:00 UTC. We’ve received no additional comments and as you know the WG has no time to circle back and revisit issues that have been discussed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are you making this suggestion for additional time on behalf of the Co-Chairs, or are you requesting additional time to submit comments as an individual (or on behalf of another WG member)? Given the time that WG members have had to review
Griffin’s comments staff aren’t sure why more time is needed. Staff further notes, and as Griffin has pointed out, that these edits do not seem to materially change anything in the recommendation or the context.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the clarification.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:14 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, Griffin Barnett <Griffin@Winterfeldt.law>, "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] [Ext] RE: Update: Sunrise Rec 2 - Input by Thursday 8 Oct 16:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ariel and All, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it would be fair to give the full WG time to review these edits. There has been an awful lot of emails crossing in our WG, in preparation for ICANN69, and frankly in our day jobs. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Further these edits seem fairly extensive...on a well-discussed and debated recommendation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would urge everyone to review.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Best, Kathy <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><b><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4"><span style="color:black">"Ariel Liang" <ariel.liang@icann.org></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>To:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Griffin Barnett" <Griffin@Winterfeldt.law>, "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cc:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Sent:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thu, 8 Oct 2020 18:50:07 +0000<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] [Ext] RE: Update: Sunrise Rec 2 - Input by Thursday 8 Oct 16:00 UTC<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear WG members,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks very much, Griffin, for the suggested clarifying edits to the contextual language of this Sunrise recommendation.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Since no additional input were received by today’s deadline at 16:00 UTC and no objection noted by any other WG member to Griffin’s suggested edits, staff will adopt them in the
contextual language of this recommendation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mary, Julie, Ariel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Griffin Barnett <Griffin@Winterfeldt.law><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ariel Liang <ariel.liang@icann.org>, "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Update: Sunrise Rec 2 - Input by Thursday 8 Oct 16:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Staff - thanks for this updated text. I would suggest the following further revisions to the second proposed context paragraph, which I intend as clarifying
edits rather than to materially alter the substance:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"><span style="color:black">To assist the IRT <s>which</s> </span>
<span style="color:red">that </span><span style="color:black">will be formed to implement recommendations adopted by the Board from this PDP, the Working Group tried to reach agreement
<s>over</s> </span><span style="color:red">on</span><span style="color:black"> some possible types of specific Registry conduct that could have the effect of intentionally circumventing trademark owners’ use of the Sunrise Period
</span><span style="color:red">within the meaning of the Registry Agreement provision envisioned in this Recommendation</span><span style="color:black">,
</span><span style="color:red">so </span><span style="color:black">as to trigger enforcement action by
</span><span style="color:red">the contractual compliance department of </span><span style="color:black">ICANN org
</span><s><span style="color:red">should the Registry Agreement contain a prohibition on such conduct</span></s><span style="color:black">. As part of its discussion, the Working Group noted that several public comments to the Initial Report had raised the
following examples as non-exhaustive illustrations of such conduct</span><span style="color:red"> (some of which had also been raised by Working Group members):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:black">Withholding or self-allocating domain</span><s><span style="color:red">s</span></s><span style="color:red"> names
</span><span style="color:black">that correspond to trademarks recorded in the TMCH with the intent of circumventing the use of the Sunrise Period by trademark owners;</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:black">Discriminatory pricing practices clearly designed to
<s>leverage</s> </span><span style="color:red">effectively prevent the </span><s><span style="color:black">need for</span></s><span style="color:black">
</span><span style="color:red">reasonable ability of trademark owners to obtain </span>
<span style="color:black">defensive Sunrise registrations <s>by trademark owners</s>
</span><span style="color:red">for their marks recorded in the TMCH</span><span style="color:black">. In this context, “discriminatory pricing practices” could include extremely high pricing during the Sunrise Period of the domain<s>s</s>
</span><span style="color:red">names </span><span style="color:black">that correspond to trademarks recorded in the TMCH followed by significantly lower prices for the same domain</span><span style="color:red"> names</span><span style="color:black"> during
Landrush or General Availability, such as to evidence an intent to target<s>ing</s> trademark owners either specifically, or as a general class of registrants, for
</span><span style="color:red">the purpose of inhibiting access to </span><span style="color:black">Sunrise registrations.</span>
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<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79">The other edits in the Context section read well to me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Ultimately, I would have preferred that the above text be included as Implementation Guidance to the Recommendation itself rather as mere context, but in the spirit of compromise and
noting the concerns others have raised on this matter, can accept its relocation to Context.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Hope the suggested revisions are nonetheless helpful.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="color:#1F4E79">Griffin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GNSO-RPM-WG] Update: Sunrise Rec 2 - Input by Thursday 8 Oct 16:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Dear WG members,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please find the updated version of Sunrise Recommendation #2 in this google doc here:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1SmXWvS9M4TAtQ3gC3o4j9-jHaw3uIlWR_2D3lV2vvTU/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!tM_hUz4f2oLBqCmAhdEZx8vsXja9L_pJYfc5PijTkBx6Hx-JgmQx6UsdAbnlSk59ZPLL680%24">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SmXWvS9M4TAtQ3gC3o4j9-jHaw3uIlWR_2D3lV2vvTU/edit?usp=sharing
[docs.google.com]</a>. This update seeks to incorporate the input provided by WG members on the mailing list and during today’s meeting.
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<span style="color:black">Please note that amendments already agreed by the WG today have been accepted. The current redline edits specifically reflect the following:
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Move the great majority of the Implementation Guidance text into the “context” section (shown in redline).
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Universal change to replace the term “trademark-corresponding domains” with “domains that correspond to trademarks recorded in the TMCH”.
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Clarification of the WG discussion about the question regarding whether any *<b>additional</b>* enforcement mechanism to supplement enforcement actions taken by ICANN Compliance (see redline edits in the final paragraph under “Context”).
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Other editorial changes suggested by David McAuley on list last Friday. <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<span style="color:black">Please provide your input/suggestion on the mailing list by<span class="apple-converted-space"> <b><u>16:00 UTC on</u></b><u>
</u></span><b><u>Thursday, 8 October</u></b>. The updated language, incorporating any further input from the WG, is expected to be finalized on the coming Thursday.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Mary, Julie, Ariel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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