[Gnso-sc-budget] Travel Reports Now Meaningless, as Useful Data has been Redacted

Wed Aug 8 20:38:50 UTC 2018

Let's send an inquiry to the Board/Senior Staff and raise this as a transparency issue.  The Privacy Officer can comment.

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From: Gnso-sc-budget <gnso-sc-budget-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
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To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; gnso-sc-budget at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-sc-budget] Travel Reports Now Meaningless, as Useful Data has been Redacted

That is certainly my thought Michele....it is a kind of tied consent, but it is not like buying a product, or a monopoly situation.  IF you are accepting free travel, you should be required to be transparent in my opinion.

Now, how do we get ICANN to change its policy on this, talk to the Privacy Officer?

cheers STeph

On 2018-08-08 14:02, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

Stephanie

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to make disclosure a condition of receiving funding. Every funded traveller gets an email from ICANN when they’re approved for a meeting so including something there that gets them to sign off on the consent might work?

I’ve no idea what the case law etc., is around this in the EU, but it shouldn’t be hard to find out.

Regards

Michele

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From: Gnso-sc-budget <gnso-sc-budget-bounces at icann.org><mailto:gnso-sc-budget-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
Date: Wednesday 8 August 2018 at 17:51
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-sc-budget] Travel Reports Now Meaningless, as Useful Data has been Redacted

I am inclined to think they are over-complying here, but that opinion is based on our own law which has a specific exemption for personal info when you are receiving a grant or benefit from the government....private sector is different.  I think they could make funding conditional on disclosure (so based on consent)....but there may be precedents in Europe to stop that kind of tied consent.  I think it is worth a try though.....

cheers SP

On 2018-08-08 12:43, Ayden Férdeline wrote:

Yes, that’s correct Michele. We also no longer know the class of travel that each supported traveler travelled in.

Ayden

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 18:19, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:

So the names are listed but not the spend per person?

Just the spend per "bucket"?

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Date: Wednesday 8 August 2018 at 15:56
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Subject: [Gnso-sc-budget] Travel Reports Now Meaningless, as Useful Data has been Redacted

Sharing this for information purposes, and because it may be of interest to subscribers of this list—

The travel reports that ICANN org publishes are now meaningless, because all the relevant information has been redacted.

The explanation that was provided for this change is as follows:

In light of recent changes in privacy regulations, ICANN Travel Support is making enhancements to the Travel Reports that are published for every meeting for our funded travelers. Moving forward, ICANN will publish the overall cost per group and will be redacting the individual cost per traveler. This change will be reflected on ICANN62 Travel Report and subsequent reports moving forward.

Source: https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Travel+Report<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fdisplay%2Ftrvlconstit%2FTravel%2BReport&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a683e9954534876cae108d5fd68d078%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636693548964787164&sdata=BHU%2B6N1y8mlwPmuZq6GSPTjSKVV2MYC8wDH8SY7ecio%3D&reserved=0>

Presumably the ‘privacy regulations’ this refers to is the GDPR, which does not actually require that this data be redacted.

Per page 19, it cost USD 24,804.03 to bring five NextGen Ambassadors to Panama, which at an average of $4,960 a traveler, was substantially more than the average cost per GNSO traveler (which was $2,518/traveler). Without additional data it is difficult to understand why the average cost was so much higher. Was it one traveler whose airfare was disproportionately expensive, or is it something more systematic?

I would like to see the travel reports continue to be published in a way that is meaningful, while all of course compliant with the GDPR. If anyone has some suggestions as to how this issue could be taken forward, I would appreciate hearing from you.

Many thanks,

Ayden

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