[Gnso-sc-budget] [council] Draft of Public Comments - ICANN's Draft FY19 Budget and Ops Plan

Tue Feb 20 16:44:25 UTC 2018

I made a number of suggested changes.

Some are more important than others.  Ayden,

maybe language like: The GNSO Council proposes that ICANN work closely with the community to evaluate all of its capacity development programs, and add in the At Large to this list, including the ICANN Academy, so that such programs demonstrate how they bring in active participants to the ICANN community, both at the national, regional, and global levels.

[just a comment: if someone attends training on the DNS held nationally, as a result of ICANN outreach and then becomes actively engaged in the RIR events, or attends an NRI hosted training program that ICANN organizes, but never attends an ICANN meeting, that is still goodness.

M

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From: Gnso-sc-budget <gnso-sc-budget-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: Martin Pablo Silva Valent
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-sc-budget] [council] Draft of Public Comments - ICANN's Draft FY19 Budget and Ops Plan

Hi Martin,

If we delete the final sentence would that be amicable?

The GNSO Council supports ICANN in its efforts to evaluate the future of becoming more fiscally prudent in all of its capacity development programmes, including the Fellowship programme, NextGen at ICANN programme, Global Indigenous Ambassador programme, and Community Onboarding programme. We support their proposed reductions in size and encourage ICANN to continue assessing the benefits of these programmes in terms of bringing active participants into the ICANN community relative to their cost. If there is doubt as to their benefits, we ask that ICANN refrain from further investments in these initiatives until such time as appropriate metrics, developed in consultation with the broader ICANN community, can be introduced.

Best wishes,

Ayden

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On 20 February 2018 2:12 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:

Ayden, that’s perfect, I would also ask to clarify that in the last part "refrain from further investments in these initiatives” it clarifies that is about not expanding them, since it could also be read as a demand to stop funding them.

With this edits done and the one just mentioned, I support the document as is. And thank you and Berry once again for all the hard work. Sorry for the email last night, but I was already sleeping when I caught glimpse of the draft and saw that these concerns were not addressed so promptly replied to give time to change them.

Best,
Martín

On 20 Feb 2018, at 05:55, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your comments and close read of the draft statement.

>From what I understand, and please correct me if I am mistaken, you do not support a reduction in the size of the fellowship or NextGen programmes at this time, and would like proper measurement tools to be in place to measure the ROI of these initiatives.

Would the following edits in red satisfy your concerns?

The GNSO Council supports ICANN in its efforts to evaluate the future of becoming more fiscally prudent in all of its capacity development programmes, including the Fellowship programme, NextGen at ICANN programme, Global Indigenous Ambassador programme, and Community Onboarding programme. We support their proposed reductions in size and encourage ICANN to continue assessing the benefits of these programmes in terms of bringing active participants into the ICANN community relative to their cost. If there is doubt as to their benefits, we ask that ICANN refrain from further investments in these initiatives until such time as appropriate metrics, developed in consultation with the broader ICANN community, can be introduced

Thank you.

Best wishes,

Ayden

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On 20 February 2018 4:48 AM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com<mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>> wrote:

I am sorry, but this draft disregards both of my oppositions towards the point of supporting the reduction of the fellowship and implying it is not fiscal prudent as it is,  nor if they should stop or not the program. I commented both in the call and in the draft itself. I support that we debate and seek for better measurement tools to understand the cost benefit, but I do not support this preemptive conclusion before even using the tools we are demanding to have.

If it is not modified to reflect that there is not an agreement to start with regarding that point,  I will have to oppose officially to its presentation or voting.

I won't speak for them, but in the call another ncsg councillor and a member of the csg also expressed such concerns.

Best,
Martin

On 19 Feb 2018 22:55, "Berry Cobb" <mail at berrycobb.com<mailto:mail at berrycobb.com>> wrote:

GNSO Council,

On behalf of the SCBO, please find attached a working draft of comments for the GNSO Council to consider in preparation for the meeting this Thursday at 12:00 UTC.  Note, that several points within this draft do not have full agreement by the SCBO at this time, but input from the Council is welcome.

The draft will be presented by Ayden (SCBO Chair) during agenda item #7.  Here, the Council will deliberate on the draft of comments and the proposed approach leading up to planned submission on 8 March.

SCBO Membership and SG/C Subject Matter Experts:

https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74580769<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fpages%2Fviewpage.action%3FpageId%3D74580769&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb69149054e61439aa21808d578787b45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636547381214162582&sdata=bWOzzc12EuHajTd%2BGy%2BOSQeutbiUpADax84dGEZvbKk%3D&reserved=0>

Proposed timeline to submit the comments:

•         19 Feb - Submit draft of comments to Council for review prior to next Council meeting

•         22 Feb - GNSO Council meeting; draft of comments on agenda and deliberation

•         26 Feb - SCBO meeting

•         27 Feb - Send latest draft to Council

•         02 Mar - Deadline for GNSO Council input, suggest edits

•         05 Mar - SCBO meeting; send final version to Council list for review

•         07 Mar - Last call for objections from Council

•         08 Mar - Submit GNSO Council comments to comment forum absent any objections

•         08 Mar - Draft FY19 ICANN Budget comments due

Thank you.

B

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