[Gnso-ssc] Recordings, Attendance, AC Chat from GNSO Standing Selection Committee call on 14 August 2017 at 18:00 UTC
Michelle DeSmyter
michelle.desmyter at icann.org
Mon Aug 14 21:17:44 UTC 2017
Dear all,
Please find below the mp3, attendance, Adobe Connect recording and chat for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee held on 14 August 2017 at 18:00 UTC.
Mp3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-14aug17-en.mp3<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-14aug17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]>
AC recording: https://participate.icann.org/p7itd6rw6uv/
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/
Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/fBMhB
Attendees:
Maxim Alzoba
Julf Helsingius
Poncelet Ileleji
Susan Kawaguchi
Osvaldo Novoa
Lori Schulman
Renata Aquino Ribeiro
Apologies:
Frederic Guillemaut
ICANN staff:
Marika Konings
Emily Barabas
Michelle DeSmyter
** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Michelle
-------------------------------
Adobe Connect chat transcript for 14 August 2017
Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the GNSO Standing Selection Committee meeting on Monday, 14 August 2017 at 18:00 UTC.
Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fBMhB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=Uui-sZ75sjGJ1_pFeZ-RBR_JElSSsfG4FBDR4o_jpNA&e=
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:hello
Julf Helsingius:Good evening!
Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome everyone!
Julf Helsingius:Will mostly be typing today - got a bad cold and no voice left.
Emily Barabas:sorry to hear that, Julf.
Julf Helsingius:That's what happens when you visit Finland...
Julf Helsingius:loud and clear
Maxim Alzoba:I think there is a Finnish way to cure that - steam sauna and vodka (but the latter is for professionals only)
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Listening to you all well too
Maxim Alzoba:At least I was told so in Helsinki by the local guy
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I won't be using audio much too
Julf Helsingius:Maxim: I don't think the vodka would be good for my meeting participation...
Maxim Alzoba:Julf: I agree, it might shift the perception of the moment
Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all
Maxim Alzoba:curing cold
Julf Helsingius:Thanks!
Maxim Alzoba:it kills bad bacteria
Maxim Alzoba:no SOI update for me
Emily Barabas:we can move them
Emily Barabas:materials about the SSR2 candidates are available here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_qA0hB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=ZbbNGvtLqGql5Xb-jp-DuUs4xUWQGGyBKzbyhjdRVeI&e=
Maxim Alzoba:I have already requested guidance from RySG ExCom and still waiting. Might provide my thinking about what was in materials though
Julf Helsingius:How are we on diversity on the current SSR2?
Maxim Alzoba:do we have a table of (location/part of GNSO/e/t/c for the current members)?
Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Lori! :)
Maxim Alzoba:Hello Lori
Emily Barabas:composition of the SSR2: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_SSR_Composition-2Bof-2BReview-2BTeam&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=rPlIvVmd-9HEebCFyJ3X7_NjfrGuhp1ITO5dDAKiqmw&e=
Lori Schulman:Hi Maxim and everyone
Lori Schulman:Sorry I am late
Marika Konings:Susan, I think you are referring to Eric Oosterweil who was selected by RSSAC
Julf Helsingius 2:Will the recording of this discussion be public?
Marika Konings:@Julf - yes, unless the SSC would decide differently.
Maxim Alzoba:I underline - it is my personal perspective and not the voice of Registries, which I am going to send later via e-mail
Marika Konings:Note that the SSC charter does state that: "To facilitate its deliberations, the SSC may decide to conduct some or all ofits deliberations in private, but if so, it is expected to provide a rationale with its recommendations."
Poncelet Ileleji:Sorry for arriving a bit late
Maxim Alzoba:Hello Poncelet
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Hello
Poncelet Ileleji:Am fine Maxim
Julf Helsingius 2:I have a slight preference for Norm as an independent
Osvaldo Novoa:@Julf me too
Maxim Alzoba:As I understand we need to provide it before 24th AUGm and it is 10 days from now
Poncelet Ileleji:Me too @Julf
Lori Schulman:Hi, they are all 3 qualified. I tend to lean toward either Scott or Norm because of their practical experience. I think that Julf's point is well taken about Norm being independent.
Julf Helsingius 2:definitely the sooner the better, as some councilors need to consult their constituency
Julf Helsingius 2:I agree with Lori - all 3 are qualified
Maxim Alzoba:as I understand Norm has more DNS operational experience
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes, all 3 are qualified and also all of them have practical experience, just some in larger organizations
Julf Helsingius 2:Good point!
Emily Barabas:Here is Norm Ritchie's SOI: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Norm-2BRitchie-2BSOI&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=PhnVj7-1hMYHM0jfArdGWjK8ixk2wsN4UFxSKlYWe0E&e=
Maxim Alzoba:also he understands how Registry backends work
Maxim Alzoba:from ISC times
Osvaldo Novoa:He was president of the Registrar Group
Maxim Alzoba:what time UTC do we have as a deadline?
Julf Helsingius 2:I assume midnight
Maxim Alzoba:ok
Marika Konings:the motion deadline is 23.59 UTC today
Maxim Alzoba:I had a personal experience with Norm, as the tech party behind the application
Maxim Alzoba:he performed well
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Rao Naveed has been fellow multiple times and coach...
Maxim Alzoba:both from the legal side of things and from tech/operational
Lori Schulman:Draw straws?
Maxim Alzoba:I think since RrSG rep is not here - we might need to reach RrSG ExCom
Poncelet Ileleji:I Agree with Lori, on Draw Straws
Marika Konings:you could do a ranking of the three candidates via a poll?
Marika Konings:and see who comes out on top?
Lori Schulman:I am thinking Scott or Nomr
Osvaldo Novoa:I prefer Norm
Lori Schulman:Norm
Julf Helsingius 2:Norm+
Poncelet Ileleji:Also as stated am thinking of Norm as an Independent
Lori Schulman:I like the rankings idea
Lori Schulman:its seems fair
Maxim Alzoba:I like the ranking idea
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I think a survey w/ ranking would be good, can get more info from others not on the call
Maxim Alzoba:yes
Emily Barabas:sure no problem
Maxim Alzoba:materials are few pages only per candidates
Emily Barabas:sorry one moment
Emily Barabas:sorry about that, here it is
Emily Barabas:I will also send it around by email shortly
Poncelet Ileleji:Thanks Emily
Julf Helsingius 2:doesn't take long for us to read it
Lori Schulman:reading now
Julf Helsingius 2:looks good to me
Maxim Alzoba:Do we need to add text that the 4th candidate expressed lack of interest?
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:looks good to me
Lori Schulman:That's is transparent
Lori Schulman:5 infers that the 4th is not
Maxim Alzoba:5th, but reading it - without this note might cause confusion
Lori Schulman:Maybe say all were contacted and these are who accepted
Julf Helsingius 2:Explicitly stating it draws attention to the one saying no - not sure that is fair
Lori Schulman:put it positively not negatively
Julf Helsingius 2:Agree with Lori
Maxim Alzoba:can we say "three out of four "
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i agree w/ three were still interested
Lori Schulman:Yay! for vacation
Lori Schulman:me too. leaving Friday
Julf Helsingius 2:Happy to do it
Maxim Alzoba:+1 for Julf
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks Julf
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:have a nice vacation you two :)
Poncelet Ileleji:Am fine with the requested changes
Maxim Alzoba:everything else looks fine
Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks Renata!
Emily Barabas:we will adjust the motion at the end of this call and circulate so everyone can take a final look
Poncelet Ileleji:So am Fine
Emily Barabas:Nothing I can think of
Julf Helsingius 2:Remember what happened last time we didn't wait for everyone to respond... :)
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i'm ok w/ 48h deadline and maybe a reminder for those who didn't answer for another 24h
Maxim Alzoba:+1 about clear reminder in UTC time and date
Julf Helsingius 2:Should be doable by email
Poncelet Ileleji:Great +1
Marika Konings:staff can send out the poll results and ask whether there are any objections to the results of the poll within 24 hours?
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:good too
Maxim Alzoba:good idea
Marika Konings::-)
Poncelet Ileleji:+1
Maxim Alzoba:Could we have this slide deck?
Lori Schulman:can you post live link in chat?
Marika Konings:Correct
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1 and on timeline too
Emily Barabas:will send slides with the notes after this call
Emily Barabas:thanks
Marika Konings:the call for volunteers for ATRT3 has closed
Marika Konings:so no new candidates are expected
Marika Konings:or are you referring to the GNSO Liaison to the GAC?
Maxim Alzoba:then it is fine
Lori Schulman:GAC Liaison
Maxim Alzoba:yes - it was relevant to GAC Liasion
Marika Konings:Slides have now also been posted on the wiki: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_69276540_SSC-2520Meeting-2520-2D-252014-2520August-25202017-2520v3.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1502736485753-26api-3Dv2&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=gdEzHcIe7sFoC2j-0tXIaMnu3CO45RV6pmq56q_IIxg&e=
Lori Schulman:can you please post link to candidates? It is on slide by not live due to Adobe interface. Thanks.
Lori Schulman:It takes years I think.
Emily Barabas:The list of candidates and materials are available here: staff can send out the poll results and ask whether there are any objections to the results of the poll within 24 hours?
Emily Barabas:sorry here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_qw0hB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=H9GuOAyni5mcwGwxLUSTMmjHLJpn2k-xNBn5o28hUb8&e=
Lori Schulman:thanks.
Emily Barabas:at the bottom of the page
Maxim Alzoba:how many do we need to select?
Marika Konings:Note that staff (our colleagues at MSSI) already conducted a first assessment of the candidates which can be also be found on the wiki (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_69275051_ATRT3-2520Applicants-2520-2D-2520Staff-2520Assessment-2520of-2520Expertise.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1501788635000-26api-3Dv2&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=oHGdB_l_5UsSMPhRZvtqzg4NiNP4jjtqpBRgzwMTGoY&s=VkrZBmxt_GfSoj2epZWx9vOPpx5uTm4cAUwjlyhq4IY&e=)
Marika Konings:3 guaranteed seats and 4 possible additional candidates (which is up to the SO/AC Chairs to select)
Maxim Alzoba:Do we have confirmations from particular GNSO bodies (about the support of ATRT3 candidates)?
Emily Barabas:Maxim, we have just received confirmation individuals who are members of SGs/Cs -- the wiki will be updated shortly
Marika Konings:note that we do not ask about support, just confirm whether affiliation is correct
Marika Konings:and as a reminder, there is no requirement to be affiliated with an SG/C to get nominated
Maxim Alzoba:but there needs to be affiliation of GNSO
Marika Konings:for example, the SSC nominated Erika Mann for the RDS RT who is not a member of any GNSO SG/C
Maxim Alzoba:@Marika, it was questionable, but it worked
Marika Konings:@Maxim - maybe not necessarily affiliation but affinity and/or knowledge?
Emily Barabas:How would you like the poll to be structured for this one?
Maxim Alzoba:it depends on a particular task, for example if seats are allocated for GNSO,
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:diversity should also be observed right?
Maxim Alzoba:I think there should be either support or affiliation
Julf Helsingius 2:why?
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok no other questions thanks
Poncelet Ileleji:I aree Diversity should be observed
Julf Helsingius 2:Maxim: how about us NCA's?
Maxim Alzoba:it depends on the task
Marika Konings:but for example for ATRT, there could be an independent expert on accountability who would have applied that the GNSO might want to endorse, even though the person may not be familiar with the GNSO. Hypothetically speaking.
Maxim Alzoba:+1 Marika
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes i agree on reviewing
Poncelet Ileleji:True indeed
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i remember there weren't many suggested changes
Maxim Alzoba:it would be great to see at least one candidate for GAC Liasion :)
Marika Konings:and at some point the SSC needs to review its charter :-)
Marika Konings:as requested by the GNSO Council when it was set up
Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks, it was a very productive meeting
Osvaldo Novoa:Thank you bye
Lori Schulman:Thanks Susan. Enjoy your time off. I will.
Maxim Alzoba:bye all
Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks Lori, enjoy your vacation too.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/attachments/20170814/94931681/attachment-0001.html>
More information about the Gnso-ssc
mailing list