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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Dear all, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Please find below the mp3, attendance, Adobe Connect recording and chat for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee held on 17 April 2017 at 13:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Mp3: <a href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-17apr17-en.mp3">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-17apr17-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>AC recording: <a href="%0bhttps:/participate.icann.org/p73kn3lhxcu/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><br>https://participate.icann.org/p73kn3lhxcu/</span></a><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.6pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DQMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xZIJEMTVQJAaGhrSEs-mGNP1af5ZhtLo5tjqyJUr5j4&s=zi8HqkcJPzyRZtbiQ-TlsxBQhcExCdcb-3Ezk1dDjec&e=">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Mailing list archives: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/" title="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Wiki page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/aL-RAw">https://community.icann.org/x/aL-RAw</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><b>Attendees:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Frederic Guilemaut<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Maxim Alzoba<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Julf Helsingius<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Hibah Kamal-Grayson (temporary alternate for Susan Kawaguchi)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Renate Ribeira Aquino<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing><b><span lang=PT-BR>Apologies: </span></b><span lang=PT-BR> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Poncelet Illelji<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Lori Schulman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Osvaldo Novoa<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><b>ICANN staff:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Emily Barabas<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Terri Agnew <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for 17 April 2017</u></b><u><o:p></o:p></u></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNoSpacing> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the GNSO Standing Selection Committee teleconference on Monday, 17 April 2017 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:agenda wik page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_NtTRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6Y-ib9I5_ub3eYQSe4f4wfzYorB94qLInYJi-bbmnjk&s=I5nQ_aIzl3XubA_rynkzAaXaOsrxE60ZkEwAys2euDc&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_NtTRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6Y-ib9I5_ub3eYQSe4f4wfzYorB94qLInYJi-bbmnjk&s=I5nQ_aIzl3XubA_rynkzAaXaOsrxE60ZkEwAys2euDc&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Hello Terri, could I test adobe audio - just in case it works for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Ok, great<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Hello Frederic<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Frederic Guillemaut:Hello Maxim, Hello Emily and Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:I am thinking about moto helmet with bluetooth mic :) so outside audio does not affect<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Hello Julf<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Maxim: I have one of those. It is still noisy in a helmet. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:also - I wonder what people think when they see you in a caffee in a helmet ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:a throat mike might work better<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:I suggest waiting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:I think two-3 minutes waiting is ok<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Got the reminder, let's start<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Marika, please add to the note, that the note of Frederic was supported by me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:and that Both Frederic and me referenced to " sufficient expertise " in technolgy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome Renata Aquino Ribeiro<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Hello Renata<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Hello and thank you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Right, so seems we know we don't have consensus support for a change of the motion, and there is not consensus support for going ahead with the motion<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I believe Poncelet disagrees with the change regardless of there being 3 or 4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:That's how I understood it too<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:So no consensus eiher way<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:We have not reached it yet, and it does not mean we should not try<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:We can't reach it on this call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Yes I agree there is no consensus<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:and we already have an opposer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:by email that is<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:yes, Poncelet Ileleji could not attend <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:and we can not reach it without him, but we could try to refine ideas we have now <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:NOTE: I do not belive that SSAC is going to leave RDS-RT without attendance, their presence might be necessary for balanced view.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:I suggest additional questions to top 7 candidates to understand how their technicl expertise is applicable <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:I agree the timescale was challenging<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:the deadline was artificial, and with proper justification we could request timeline extension.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I would like to know if these additional seats will be available, because that would help us in consensus. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Yes, knowing about additional seats would help<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Isn't there any way to get this response soon?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:there is already someone from Rr on 4th seat isn't there? Marc?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Marika Konings 2:Volker is currently ranked 4th, with Marc on 5th<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Volker from Rr as 4, Marc from Ry as 5<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Right, either way, I guess it makes us reach consensus if the 4th is accepted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Yes, probably<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:I think we would have pretty good argumets to James to argue for a 4th position<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:And perhaps we can send that communication to SO/ACs to ask them for support<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:I don't think the issue is about skills - I think we haev a pretty good picture of that. The skills needed are not technical. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes, the skills were already judged by the survey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I'd also try making a case in council for 4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:my suggestion is to to some more in-depth due diligence<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:and we might ask GNSO Council to review possiblity of extension of 3 granted seats to 4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:with description of current disagreement (diversity vs technological expertise)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Frederic Guillemaut:i agree with the extension to 4 seats<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:I agree with extension to 4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:I support 4 as well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1 extension<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Seems that would be full consensus of all of us on the call <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Yes, that sounds like a good formulation, Marika<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:My suggestion: 1. we ask for extension of the timeline (we describe the current deadlock and situation we face with "divercity v.s. tech expertise". 2. We suggest 4 seats as a resolution or 3. we need the extension for more id-depth due diligence<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Yes, so extension only becomes an option if 4 people are not accepted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Doodle: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__doodle.com_poll_ymw59t3n8utit7wh&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6Y-ib9I5_ub3eYQSe4f4wfzYorB94qLInYJi-bbmnjk&s=8ogstzbBZ78GgK905onXFXP4u6_zr3aWhMDLswbPT-w&e">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__doodle.com_poll_ymw59t3n8utit7wh&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6Y-ib9I5_ub3eYQSe4f4wfzYorB94qLInYJi-bbmnjk&s=8ogstzbBZ78GgK905onXFXP4u6_zr3aWhMDLswbPT-w&e</a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Could we have Google docs& offline word copy of the draft, so we can comment on it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I also believe an extension of time is not what we are asking now, an extension of seats only<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:I can not edit my checkboxes in the poll for the time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:found it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i think next steps are good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:drafting a new motion and asking for gnso to analyse<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Marika: should I flag the possilble developments to the council?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:Thanks Everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes julf<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:Sure. Will do that tomorrow morning<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Frederic Guillemaut:thank you all, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba:bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Frederic Guillemaut:enjoy chocolate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks have a great week<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Julf Helsingius:thanks and bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>