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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find below the mp3, attendance,</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Adobe Connect recording and chat for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee held on 06
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mp3: </span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-06sep17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]" style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: 14px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-06sep17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]</a></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">AC recording</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">: </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p9d3nuimvti/" style="font-family: -webkit-standard; font-size: 14px;">https://participate.icann.org/p9d3nuimvti/</a></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: </span><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar" style="color: purple;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Osvaldo Novoa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Lori Schulman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Renata Aquino Ribeiro</span></p>
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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">06 September 2017</span></u></b></p>
<div>Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the GNSO Standing Selection Committee meeting on Wednesday, 06 September 2017 at 18:00 UTC. </div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_3hghB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=RKAJ85iyiMYEix7K028IHFxbfEODTr1ndrad7jC77fc&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_3hghB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=RKAJ85iyiMYEix7K028IHFxbfEODTr1ndrad7jC77fc&e=</a></div>
<div> Susan Kawaguchi:do you mind dialing out to me ? 408 655 6111</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Hello All</div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:I will send another reminder </div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):good</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Hi just muted my mic </div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:not sure if there was audio from me</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Lori was going to drop RPM calltoo for this one</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:This was the best slot per the doodle poll :(</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:but I'll be here and test it again if needed</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ah purple better</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Yes me too</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):it is 30 minutes of that left</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:cool</div>
<div> Marika Konings:yes we do</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:we record them but release if it is asked only right?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Q1 was well formed I assume :)</div>
<div> Marika Konings:the recordings are publicly posted, unless you decide differently</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:tks Marika</div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Lori! </div>
<div> Emily Barabas:@Maxim, you can ignore Q1. That was just so we could track who had responded :)</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Hi</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:was on RPM call which runs to 2:30 today. sigh..</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:minor one to: I am now the mentor of the Global Indigenous Program - ALAC program</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):RySG made another call for GAC Liasion application</div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Renate - the charter notes the following: Unless otherwise directed by the GNSO Council, the names of all applicants and all documentsreceived during the selection process shall be considered public and published on the GNSO web-siteor
other ICANN web-site. To facilitate its deliberations, the SSC may decide to conduct some or all ofits deliberations in private, but if so, it is expected to provide a rationale with its recommendations.</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-87RXWCMK8/">https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-87RXWCMK8/</a></div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:The web page is pretty good</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Marika thanks noted</div>
<div> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Osvaldo</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I meant RySG asked members to consider sending an application</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:if it is easier to view on the site</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, sorry I am late.</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I agree, top 3 or 4 is pretty clear</div>
<div> Susan Kawaguchi:Welcome Osvaldo</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Can someone remind me of how many candidates that we will endorse?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:agree top 4 is pretty clear</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:3 primary candidates, up to 7 total</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):CPH, RySG and RrSG collectively supported Brian Cute and Stephane Van Gelding (in this particular order) - it is about GNSO support</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:If you scroll to the bottom of the agenda, you can see each candidate listed with affiliation</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Emily - it is official endorsement of SGs</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:it doesn't indicate endorsement, just membership of SG/Cs</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:So I guess top 3 is clear, the question is who we *don't* recommend as additionals</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:We have to drop 2, yes</div>
<div> Marika Konings:You do not need to endorse all </div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):what is the final order of candidates - given the poll results</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Agree with Julf. I would nominate top 3-4 and maybe 2 more for diversity.</div>
<div> Marika Konings:you have the option to, but you are expected to ensure that whoever you put forward meet the requirements for GNSO endorsement</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I lost my audio, I am disconnecting and connecting again</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I think we need to start from readiness to fill roles and then we make choice based on diversity</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:Back again, sorry</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I support 7</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):seats request</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:7</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Do we have an order derived from the poll?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:7 in total? </div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Maxim, if you look at the ranking for the last two questions the ranking is consistent</div>
<div> Marika Konings:but you may also want to factor in the responses to the other two questions</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):is there a URL for this PDF? </div>
<div> Emily Barabas:<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-87RXWCMK8">https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-87RXWCMK8</a></div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:i actually applied a bit of gender balancing in my own evaluation</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):What is the current composition if any - so we need to know what should be balanced this time</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 for fresh blood to add to numbers of those who understand ICANNeze</div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Maxim - what are you referring to with regards to 'current composition'?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:The questionnaire also had the bias that "don't know" and "no" are pretty much the same</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 Julf</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Marika, I meant other seats - do we know who is going to be there?</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Agree with Julf about survey questions</div>
<div> Marika Konings:It looks like only RSSAC has endorsed a candidate so far: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_64jRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=Pp61xRI98W7yDZyqqWdeUqegPjKcdGrgnK8SvLz3iWw&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_64jRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=Pp61xRI98W7yDZyqqWdeUqegPjKcdGrgnK8SvLz3iWw&e=</a></div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:So people we don't know automatically get low ratings</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Julf, is this position ment to be for total newcomers? I was under impression that it was actually the call for veterans</div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Julf - but their application information is expected to provide sufficient information so that people can say 'yes' or 'no' (in an ideal world :-)</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Maxim: sure - we mostly want veterans. But maybe one or two fresh views?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:If someone is asking for GNSO endorsement, you might expect that they would explain why they are ideally suited to represent the GNSO?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Marika: true</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 Julf, but not at cost of veterans suitable</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Marika, RySG and RrSG expressed their support - does it count as GNSO endorsement?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:No, GNSO endorsement is the result of a Council vote (following the SSC recommendations)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID)::)</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:ouch!</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:oops lowered the hand</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:tatiana to top3</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Dropping Stephane?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:so we send 5 males / 2 females but stephane on 4</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):???</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:And we haev a really bad track record with regional balance</div>
<div> Marika Konings:Note that both Brian and Stephane as well as Wolfgang and Tatiana are from the same SG (RySG and NCSG respectively)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Do we have a particular reason to drop the candidate supported by both RrSG and RySG?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:we can send 7 right?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:it is up to GNSO to consider right?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:7, but 3 primary, right?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:correct</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):professional experience was number 1</div>
<div> Marika Konings:SO/AC chairs may consider alternates to ensure sufficient diversity in the overall slate</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes I thin of the 1/3 women who applied we should send 1</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):was it?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Do we want to punt and leave the "3 out of 4" to the council?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:I don't think the Council would be happy to make that decision ;-)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Brian and Stephane (in case we have 3 - than Brian)</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:brian and stephane </div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:are the supported</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:I would not "punt"</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:we have asked for the inclusion of a 4th before</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I interpreted Renata's suggestion to be basically punting</div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Renate - and that was not easy to get agreement on that as it is dependent on the agreement of the other SO/AC Chairs</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:he won't be able to do that too often</div>
<div> Marika Konings:they may not be willing to do that a second time (and for RDS there is a clear case to make that it is GNSO centric)</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:so just for clarification we are not sending the 7?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):back</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:We are possibly sneding 7, but with a top 3</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:wasn't the 7 optional?</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I support the top three that resulted from the poll.</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 for sending 7, and ranking top 3</div>
<div> Marika Konings:You may send 7 names to the GNSO for endorsement, but only 3 get a guaranteed seat, the other 4 may be considered by the SO/AC Chairs for a place, but only if there are places available and there is a concern about diversity</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:we need 3, plus possibly up to 4 more</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:I don't have a big issue with sending 7 but think that leaving 2 Asian applicants out looks a bit weird</div>
<div> Marika Konings:and yes, up to 4 alternates, no requirement though</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:but as long as we can justify it, we can do what we think is best</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok I would ask then we send the 7, send the top 3 and note for GNSO that there was a minority of women applications and gender balance was a considerable challenge</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):not sure up to the top of 3</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:and ask for the 4th</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:agree with Renata</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):according to the poll?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Renata's suggestion makes sense</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:Agree to asking for the 4th, but in the order of the poll</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I think we need to understand the order of 7 and then we see top 3</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I am against asking for 4, but support pointing out diversity issue</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I am not sure 4th candidate is going to be supported at all</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):on GSNO Council level</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:So propose 3 + 4, and express diversity concerns</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:RSSAC appointment is also male</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I support Julf's proposal</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):could we suggest that top 3 have great score difference with others and due to diversity concerns we suggest 4th (and well formed justification)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I meant to report that top 3 have way more points then other candidates</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):but we'd like to have another seat considered </div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I am against asking for extra seat</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:The top 4 are balanced RySG/ NCSG </div>
<div> Lori Schulman:I say choose 7 and then rank</div>
<div> Marika Konings:maybe the question is whether NCSG would consider flipping their candidates for diversity? (in the top 4)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 Lori</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:and as for regional diversity, Tatiana is Russian but she's in EU right now, does that count?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I saw RSSAC is Asian region?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):according to her CV she spent many years outside of Russia</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Not sure</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:agree on sending top 7, highlighting top 3 and asking for a 4th for diversity</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:A bunch of asian representatives are born elsewhere too.</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:Julien had excellent credentials for analytical work</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:this is tougher than I thought</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I would flip only 3rd w/ 4th for diversity, not the 2nd</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:practically, we should cut last 2 and than rank</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:then rand</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:sorry for typos</div>
<div> Marika Konings:It looks like it is either two RySG or two NCSG in the top 3</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I don't support modifying the order of the poll.</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I think we were meant to have balance within the particular team and not with others</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):ok</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Yes, I would support that</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Julf, about the Asian representatives being born elsewhere, I understand that allocation to a region has domicile or work address, so that's the question - one may study in EU but still have their house in Asia or elsewhere</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I think it was related to working place</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Renata: according to that criteria Tatiana is EU, right?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok </div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):according to AGB Russia was EU </div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i am answering ok rank according to the poll</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):+1 for rank from the voting page 9-10</div>
<div> Marika Konings:Correct, Tatiana is listed as European (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_64jRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=Pp61xRI98W7yDZyqqWdeUqegPjKcdGrgnK8SvLz3iWw&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_64jRAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=AgpQ86laYGKHfbYOxyH93i1wjWicuGE1EteNYDHeWlY&s=Pp61xRI98W7yDZyqqWdeUqegPjKcdGrgnK8SvLz3iWw&e=</a>)</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I am wondering if we are trying the 4th or not?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i think expressing it would be goot</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Express concern, but not ask for it</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:good</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):if we ask for 4 then definitely 7 will not work </div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:and highlighting that mroe women should volunteer for wgs</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:yes</div>
<div> Marika Konings:I think we have included that as well in one of the previous motions</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes definitely they should encourage women to apply</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:can we say the proportion?</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:that out of 9, only 3 were women?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:Staff can also prepare a draft motion for your review</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:tks that's good for me</div>
<div> Marika Konings:note that the deadline for motions is coming up shortly (10 September)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):P.s: and it would be great to have at least one candidate for GAC liasion </div>
<div> Marika Konings:so we may need to submit a placeholder if more time is needed to finalise and/or get everyone's input</div>
<div> Marika Konings:Deadline for applications is 8 September</div>
<div> Marika Konings:None submitted so far (as I am aware)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I asked RySG to repeat request for volunteers on the RySG call today </div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I might have to recuse myself</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:question: was there ever a gac liason non ex-council?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Julf, I think you are going to be well supported </div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I am considering presenting my application. Should I abandon this call?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Same question as Osvaldo</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):If both Osvaldo and Julf want to apply for we need to say when to drop the call</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):actually I think that 2 candidates is way better that 1 (at least twice)</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:well i'll just apply then too, for gender balance :)</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Well, we can't apply, it is up to constitutiencies...</div>
<div> Marika Konings:do note that candidates need to be put forward by a SG/C - not individual applications. </div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks Marika</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I was actually not serious :) I've seen that women are less than a 1/3 :D</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:tks Susan</div>
<div> Marika Konings:yes, several reminders have gone out</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Do we know if the SG has to support only it's members?</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:SO/AC support sent out a reminder last week</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I have my usual issue of NCA's not being a constituency</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Who is my leadership team? :)</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:I received the announcement last week from my constituency</div>
<div> Marika Konings:@Julf - didn't you just share that you joined a constituency?? ;-)</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Well, yes, gues so</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I will</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):I have a question</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes Julf, c'mon</div>
<div> Marika Konings:No, they can put forward anyone they want to support</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):ok</div>
<div> Marika Konings:no requirement for SG/C affiliation</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:I didn't hear that :)</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i am not understanding</div>
<div> Marika Konings:but it could be a requirement that SG/Cs could apply themselves, but it is definitely not restricted in that way in the call for applications</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok clear susan</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):@Renata, It was about the persons having support from SG/C even if they are not members of that particular SG/C</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ah ok Maxim... tks</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:Do we want to use the same time slot on the 13th?</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:It conflicts with RPM becasue RPM has been extended by 30 mins</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Ok with me</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:can we start 1/2 hour later?</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):doodle for the next poll is always a good idea .. this time I lost last 30 minutes of RPM</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):too</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:have WS2 transparency immediately afterwards, but can excuse myself</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i'd aks for a doodle, lacnic and so many things coming up</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:Doodle?</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:way too many</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:Sure :)</div>
<div> Marika Konings:good point Renate - we may need some alternates for those that may apply from the SSC</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):As I understood the person applying is going to visit all GAC meetings</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):need sot</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):to</div>
<div> Marika Konings:other work is a review of the SSC charter - staff will be preparing some materials in that regard</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:right</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):Do we have a chance to invite Carlos to ask his opinion of the candidate qualifications / time scheduling e.t.c.?</div>
<div> Marika Konings:so that you can focus on that after the GNSO Liaison to the GAC</div>
<div> Emily Barabas:And perhaps also discussion of the Standard Process document</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok tks for the replies</div>
<div> Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Thanks!</div>
<div> Julf Helsingius:Thanks!</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:thanks susan</div>
<div> Lori Schulman:ciao</div>
<div> Osvaldo Novoa:Bye , thank you</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba(FAITID):1 am</div>
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