<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>As requested by Chuck, please find attached an updated version of the draft principles documents in which comments have now been listed under each principle (note, I've added a couple of responses to Chuck's replies). If you have any additional comments, please use the attached version to add these.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Marika</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday 10 December 2013 02:17<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Nic Steinbach <<a href="mailto:nic@name.com">nic@name.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments<br></div><div><br></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks a lot Nic. Rather to add more comments, I will try to respond in my message.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regarding principle 2, you said in your comment (NS3): “</span>Is there an objective criteria for this? I agree in principle to this principle, but this exception
seems like it has the potential for abuse if left this broad. Maybe something like “except where there is broad community consensus that there is an emergency case related to security and/or stability”<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">”
The problem as I see it with your suggestion is that if there is an emergency SSR issue, there is not time to check for community consensus. Maybe we could add something though like this: “</span>except in emergency cases such as risks to security and stability
<span style="color:#00B0F0">as defined in ICANN’s SSR framework</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">In your comment on principle 3 (NS5), you said that you “</span>Agree with this opinion<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">”. What opinion do you agree with? I got the impression
that you agree with the principle regardless of whether it differs with the current PDP manual. Is that correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Before I respond to your other comments, let me suggest that we restructure the list of principles so that there is only one per page so that there will hopefully be room for all comments
under each principle. Marika/Mary – would you be able to do that? If not, I can try to do it tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Nic Steinbach [<a href="mailto:nic@name.com">mailto:nic@name.com</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 6:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br><b>Cc:</b> Marika Konings; <a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hello All, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Marika and Chuck thanks for your work. I am attaching my comments that incorporate Marika's initial feedback. Unfortunately, I somehow missed Chuck's responses. Currently reviewing them now, but wanted to get these out to the group. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nic<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks Marika. I inserted some responses to your comments to continue the discussion. Hopefully,
others will add their comments as well. Discussing the issues you identified will make for a good agenda item for our first call(s).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 7:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">To kick things off, I've added a couple of comments / questions as well as proposed edits to the draft provided
by Chuck (see attached).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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