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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for the helpful responses Nic. It looks like you did fine with Word. The only think I did differently was to accept the previous redlines before adding
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Nic Steinbach [mailto:nic@name.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Marika Konings; gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached is an updated version with some clarification and additional thoughts on my part. I unfortunately, am not quite as familiar with Microsoft word markup as Chuck. I apologize if I broke convention. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought Tom brought up a good point with trying to apply the principles to real life situations. I am not very familiar with either of those two developments, but intend to take a look at them and think about them in the context of this
subteam. It certainly would be useful to have concrete examples to compare the principles against in our discussons moving forward. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom am I curious - how would you answer those questions? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Here’s the next version. I accepted the previous redlined comments and added three of my responses
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Marika Konings [mailto:<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Nic Steinbach<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As requested by Chuck, please find attached an updated version of the draft principles documents in which comments
have now been listed under each principle (note, I've added a couple of responses to Chuck's replies). If you have any additional comments, please use the attached version to add these.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 10 December 2013 02:17<br>
<b>To: </b>Nic Steinbach <<a href="mailto:nic@name.com" target="_blank">nic@name.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks a lot Nic. Rather to add more comments, I will try to respond in my message.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding principle 2, you said in your comment (NS3): “</span>Is there an objective criteria for
this? I agree in principle to this principle, but this exception seems like it has the potential for abuse if left this broad. Maybe something like “except where there is broad community consensus that there is an emergency case related to security and/or
stability”<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">” The problem as I see it with your suggestion is that if there is an emergency SSR issue, there is not time to check for community consensus. Maybe we could add something
though like this: “</span>except in emergency cases such as risks to security and stability
<span style="color:#00B0F0">as defined in ICANN’s SSR framework</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In your comment on principle 3 (NS5), you said that you “</span>Agree with this opinion<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">”.
What opinion do you agree with? I got the impression that you agree with the principle regardless of whether it differs with the current PDP manual. Is that correct?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Before I respond to your other comments, let me suggest that we restructure the list of principles so that there is only one per
page so that there will hopefully be room for all comments under each principle. Marika/Mary – would you be able to do that? If not, I can try to do it tomorrow.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Nic Steinbach [<a href="mailto:nic@name.com" target="_blank">mailto:nic@name.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 6:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Marika Konings; <a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">
gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello All, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Marika and Chuck thanks for your work. I am attaching my comments that incorporate Marika's initial feedback. Unfortunately, I somehow missed Chuck's responses. Currently reviewing
them now, but wanted to get these out to the group. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nic<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Marika. I inserted some responses to your comments to continue the discussion. Hopefully,
others will add their comments as well. Discussing the issues you identified will make for a good agenda item for our first call(s).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 7:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-subteam0b-policyimpl] Draft principles - comments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">To kick things off, I've added a couple of comments / questions as well as proposed edits to the draft provided
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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