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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Dear All,</span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">The next Policy and Implementation Principles Sub-Team is scheduled for Thursday 16 January 2014 at 2100 UTC for 90 minutes.</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working Principles Sub-Team call held on </span><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Thursday 09 January 2014</span><span style="font-size: 15px; "> at 21:00 UTC:</span></p></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); text-decoration: underline; font-size: 15px;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140109-en.mp3</span></p><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><u><span lang="FR">Attendees:</span></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Alan Greenberg – At-Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Greg Shatan – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Chuck Gomes- RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Nic Steinbach- RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">J.Scott Evans - BC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Jonathan Frost – RySG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Tom Barett – RrSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Michael Graham – IPC</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Avri Doria – NCSG</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> </span></p></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><u>ICANN staff:</u></span></p></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">Julia Charvolen</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><br></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; ">** Please let me <span lang="FR">know if your name has been left off the list **</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR">Wiki page<font color="#0000ff">:</font></span><span lang="FR"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag"><font color="#0000ff">https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag</font></a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR">Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR">Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR">Julia Charvolen</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR">For GNSO Secretariat</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 15px; "><span lang="FR"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><u style="font-size: 15px; ">Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 09 January 2014:</u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; "><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Principles (0B) Sub-Team meeting</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:I will need to leave on the hour</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Nic Steinbach joined the meeting</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:That's great. I think we can skip my comments 3 and 4 if we use their definition...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Michael Graham joined the call</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Greg Shatan joined the meeting</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:Here is the text I just read: “Multistakeholder Model” - An organizational framework or structure for governance or policymaking which aims to bring together all stakeholders affected by such governance or policymaking — including but not limited to business, civil society, governments, academic institutions and the technical community — to cooperate and participate in the dialogue, decision making and implementation of solutions to identified problems or goals.The “ICANN Multistakeholder Model” is composed of different Internet stakeholders from around the world organized in various Support Organizations, Constituencies and Advisory Committees, and utilizes a consensus-based policy development process, also known as a “bottom-up” model.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:Thank you, Marika, for posting the definition!</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:not adminent, but could we use regulation if people are concerned about the connotation of governance?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:I like J. Scott's suggestion</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:agree with j scott</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:i don't even know if affected is necessary</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika test:Remember, the first definition is general, not specific to ICANN</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:anyone can particiapte under ICANN</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:ah</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:but even for a general multistakeholder model</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:why are we defining what a stakeholder is? should be ultra generic.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:Speaking of "Governance", it is useful to note that the www.icann.org site has a "Governance" section for resources relating to the formation and structure of ICANN itself. </div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:mike appears to be broken</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:mic*</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:J. Scott, did I catch your edits correctly? (see right hand side)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:Marika, in the second definition, Multistatkeholer Model shoudl be captialized</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:Done</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:no audio.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:Otherwise, yes. I think you captured my edits correctly.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:i will die in</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:dial*</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Thomas Barrett joined the phone bridge</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:i disagree with including the brackets anywhere. stakeholders 5 years from now may be radically different. ICANN is evolving...I think without the brakcets it is more robust</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Nic Steinbach joined the phone bridge</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:i dont think the words add anything of value</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:in the colr red</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:"include but are not limited to individuals, groups and organizations in business, civil society, government, academic institutions and the tecnical community." ??</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:@Tom I could agree with you -- stakeholders in the ICANN context are those within the definition of "ICANN Multistakeholder Model"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:my issue is not in the list but in that we have two lists! lets just use one list and say it is non-exhaustive</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Avri Doria joined the meeting</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:On the Internet of Things, could Things be stakeholders? :-)</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:I agree -- footnote.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:Marika: Could we include "individuals, groups, and organizations" ahead of the delineation of "business . . . " etc.?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:in a particular organization and that has the ability . . . "</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:or remove that list</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:/ consolidate it our other list</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:we still in the chapeau?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:the existing text starting with "bring together the primary stakeholders such as businesses, civil society, governments, research institutions and non-government organizations " should be edit to be simply "together the primary stakeholders "</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:agree tom</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:then allow the footnote to explain what a stakeholder is</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:except i would remove prmiary</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:primary* - not sure what purpose that serves</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:actually, the word "outcome" would be better than organization</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:karma. alan. karma</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:We should send this sentenc to the definitions committee.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:sentence....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:@Greg -- Thanks! That, or the semantic correctness committee.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:the missing word is "outcome"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:switching to mobile / travel now off her back in audio only soon</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:of all interested stakeholders</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:add "interested"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham 2:Not to muddy waters, but here is Wikipedia on "Stakeholder": A corporate stakeholder is that which can affect or be affected by the actions of the business as a whole. The stakeholder concept was first used in a 1963 internal memorandum at the Stanford Research Institute. It defined stakeholders as "those groups without whose support the organization would cease to exist."[1] The theory was later developed and championed by R. Edward Freeman in the 1980s. Since then it has gained wide acceptance in business practice and in theorizing relating to strategic management, corporate governance, business purpose and corporate social responsibility (CSR).The term has been broadened to include anyone who has an interest in a matter.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Nic Steinbach:why do we have a such as clause in that paragraph and a foot note?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:i agree with Nic that the such as phrase is unnecessary</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham 2:+1</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Julia Charvolen:Cheryl is back on the call</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:I am going to have to leave the call here very soon. Thanks to everyone for their active and robust participation.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:I would agree removing "the primary"</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:Yea! Good call, Marika.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> J. Scott Evans:Marika. Move the sentence about stakeholder between the two definitions.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika Konings:We actually scheduled this call for 90 minutes</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:@Cheryl -- yours was a very cogent answer.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Marika test:As this effort is specific to the GNSO, should we just list the GNSO SGs?</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:how about including the phrase including but not limted to and them mention the gnso SGs/C and Liaisons groups</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:@Avri -- those are actually listed I think in the "ICANN Multistakeholder Model" definition.</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:but can be mentioned in more general terms. constracted artioes, businesses, non commercials, service providers, ...</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Avri Doria:put it in brackets</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Michael R. Graham:"organized in or represented by themselves and the various . . ."</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> Greg Shatan:Anything less s than a 2-hour every week call (as in the IGO/INGO group) is a breeze....</div><div style="font-size: medium; "> EnCirca - Tom Barrett:bye</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div></p></div></div></div></body></html>