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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The next Policy and Implementation Principles Sub-Team is scheduled for </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thursday 23 January 2014 <span style='color:black'>at 2100 UTC for 90 minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working Principles Sub-Team call held on Thursday </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>16 <span style='color:black'>January 2014 at 21:00 UTC:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://icann.box.com/shared/static/db48tii1okzvod3htaby.mp3">https://icann.box.com/shared/static/db48tii1okzvod3htaby.mp3</a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Cheryl Langdon-Orr – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Chuck Gomes- RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Nic Steinbach- RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Michael Graham – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Alan Greenberg – At-Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Avri Doria – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Tom Barrett – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Apology: <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>J.Scott Evans - BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>know if your name has been left off the list **</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span 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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Nathalie Peregrine</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>For GNSO Secretariat</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Adobe Chat Transcript for </span></u><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thursday 16 January <span style='color:black'>2014:</span></span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Principles (0B) Sub-Team meeting on the 16th January 2014 at 21:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:understood Nic<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes Michael we could expand text toclarify<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:add it elsewhere<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:either works but prefer -<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nic Steinbach:if you ordered it that way you could get rid of "the process"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Alan Greenberg has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:Listening but on in a moment<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:Policy Development Processes must function in a bottom-up manner, and the process must not be conducted in a top-down manner and then imposed on stakeholders, although an exceptio may be made in emergency cases . . . <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:Will be on in a moment. Will have a comment<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yup itcomes out of matters identified in Imp this goes to Michaels earlier point<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:Trying to pull it into a single sentence and relate all three elements. ("exception")<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Alan is on the birdge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:ergh<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:to what Alan lssharing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:footnote works but deffinition needs to go back to deffinitios list/st at least for ratification<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Avri Doria has joined the room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <span lang=FR>Avri Doria:Apologies. I forgot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=FR> </span>Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:~could we use thetermChartering Organisation?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i cant read the screen at all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i can when i do full screen. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:for any policy we don't have. i think this answer must be imposed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:any policy we dont have we will create.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:nd the general principle is it comes back to the group that made the policy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:otherwise. they could decide tthat it only related to some other group and the gnso never even gets notified. it MUST come back to the GNSO<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:Mary, I think that we need to take the "In all cases..." phrase and make it s single bullt.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:CLO, if this was a general policy, i would agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong 2:Alan, are you referring to the new third bullet I just created?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:No, the in all cases one. That is the simple part that none of us are debating.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:that is why it comes back to the council<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Nathalie switching to mobile now dial out in say 2 mins<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:ok thanks Cheryl<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:We're trying to dial out to Cheryl's mobile and getting voicemail, I will let you know when she is back on the bridge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:I'm going to have to sign off -- will check the MP3.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Cheryl is back on<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael Graham -- Gnosis IP:I believe the Principle should be generally that the Implementation Process should not address Policy issues that may arise during their work. Sorry I have to go -- <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:i think it is a fantasy that issue werren't discussed. the understanidng is usually missing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Tom Barrett has joined the AC room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nic Steinbach:I am going to have to step away for 10 minutes, but will remain in the room. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:anything that is not derivative may mean it needs to be added to the chapeau<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:assuming i dont forget and get there late enough to only have an hour<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>