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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry if I’m a bit thick here, but if you could clarify what you’re proposing for me it would be helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At the moment most new TLD registries seem to support a variant of the “claims check” which extends the standard “domain check”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> tmch-tech-bounces@icann.org [mailto:tmch-tech-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffrey Eckhaus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tmch-tech@icann.org; gtld-tech@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [tmch-tech] Fwd: RPM Requirement of Supporting Claims Service for Release or Allocation of Reserved Domain Names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi all,<br>
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We have been thinking a great deal about this and cannot come to any other conclusion is that this will be a major pain with little to no benefit to anyone involved. I like the idea of addressing this at a policy level to see if this can be removed or retracted
based on information and evidence we have to date. How many claims notices have been served by the TMCH, how many registrations did not go through because the registrant did not agree to the Claims Notification. how many URS's have been sent? I believe that
ICANN made this mandatory in the RPM "negotiations" and hopefully they can reverse this the same way they mandated it.<br>
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Now that we are stuck with this , I think we still need to work towards a solution and think this is going to be driven by Registrars and how their solutions are setup. Even if a Registry decides to run eternal claims , if the registrar has their system set
for .EXAMPLE TLD to only run claims for 90 days , it will be a bad user experience as the registration will fail, if the claims acknowledgment is not submitted. On the other side , if the Registrar has eternal claims running , then it will require all SLD's
on the claims list to go through the TMCH, regardless if it is past 90 days. This is not a great option either , as it would add a tremendous workload to both Registries and Registrars and I do not see Registrars keeping this eternal claims on <br>
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I think a possible solution for both sides is to have domain level claims checks. When a registrant searches for a domains at their favorite registrar , the registrar would send a claims check to the Registry. If the Registry has been in GA for over 90 days
and the domain name was available the whole time (not on reserve) then it would return that there is no claims on this domain , even if it is actually in the TMCH. If it was just taken off reserve and is less than 90 days than it would come back with yes for
Claims and the registrar would need to pull the claims notice and present it to the registrant. <br>
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While this is still not ideal , it is the least burdensome method to registries and registrars and will cause the least amount of confusion for registrants <br>
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Would love to hear any thoughts on this or any other proposals as we get closer to London meeting<br>
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Jeff<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Jeffrey Eckhaus <<a href="mailto:jeff@rightside.co">jeff@rightside.co</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Subject: Re: [tmch-tech] RPM Requirement of Supporting Claims Service for Release or Allocation of Reserved Domain Names</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Date: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">June 10, 2014 at 2:19:49 PM PDT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Elaine Pruis <<a href="mailto:elaine@donuts.co">elaine@donuts.co</a>>, "<a href="mailto:tmch-tech@icann.org">tmch-tech@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:tmch-tech@icann.org">tmch-tech@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a>"
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have been thinking a great deal about this and cannot come to any other conclusion is that this will be a major pain with little to no benefit to anyone involved. I like the idea of addressing this at a policy level to see if this can
be removed or retracted based on information and evidence we have to date. How many claims notices have been served by the TMCH, how many registrations did not go through because the registrant did not agree to the Claims Notification. how many URS's have
been sent? I believe that ICANN made this mandatory in the RPM "negotiations" and hopefully they can reverse this the same way they mandated it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now that we are stuck with this , I think we still need to work towards a solution and think this is going to be driven by Registrars and how their solutions are setup. Even if a Registry decides to run eternal claims , if the registrar
has their system set for .EXAMPLE TLD to only run claims for 90 days , it will be a bad user experience as the registration will fail, if the claims acknowledgment is not submitted. On the other side , if the Registrar has eternal claims running , then it
will require all SLD's on the claims list to go through the TMCH, regardless if it is past 90 days. This is not a great option either , as it would add a tremendous workload to both Registries and Registrars and I do not see Registrars keeping this eternal
claims on <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think a possible solution for both sides is to have domain level claims checks. When a registrant searches for a domains at their favorite registrar , the registrar would send a claims check to the Registry. If the Registry has been in
GA for over 90 days and the domain name was available the whole time (not on reserve) then it would return that there is no claims on this domain , even if it is actually in the TMCH. If it was just taken off reserve and is less than 90 days than it would
come back with yes for Claims and the registrar would need to pull the claims notice and present it to the registrant. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While this is still not ideal , it is the least burdensome method to registries and registrars and will cause the least amount of confusion for registrants <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would love to hear any thoughts on this or any other proposals as we get closer to London meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Gould, James <<a href="mailto:JGould@verisign.com" target="_blank">JGould@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I agree with both Jeff and Elaine that having a discussion at the ICANN meeting along with further discussion on the list ahead of the meeting would be very useful. Can
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jeffrey Eckhaus <<a href="mailto:jeff@rightside.co" target="_blank">jeff@rightside.co</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Elaine Pruis <<a href="mailto:elaine@donuts.co" target="_blank">elaine@donuts.co</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [tmch-tech] RPM Requirement of Supporting Claims Service for Release or Allocation of Reserved Domain Names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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