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<div>The cross field requirement only kicks in once there is agreement on it.</div>
<div>Such agreement does not exist<br>
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On 25 Nov 2014, at 18:31, Greg Aaron <<a href="mailto:greg@illumintel.com">greg@illumintel.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hey, Michele. You mean registrars must VERIFY phone or email. The RAA says that registrars must VALIDATE presence of data in the street field, and VALIDATE
that postal addresses are in a proper format for the applicable country, and VALIDATE that all postal address fields are consistent across fields (for example: street exists in city).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m using the terms as per the RAA WHOIS Accuracy Program Spec.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Michele Neylon - Blacknight [<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Aaron<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gould, James; Gustavo Lozano; <a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gtld-tech] Whois advisory feedback meeting @IETF91<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Greg<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Registrars do not have to validate street<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's phone OR email<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michele<br>
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On 25 Nov 2014, at 17:09, Greg Aaron <<a href="mailto:greg@illumintel.com">greg@illumintel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Question #8: It is permissible for the registry contracts or the RAA to specify fields that are mandatory above and beyond those in the EPP specification.
The EPP spec is a baseline as far as data fields, and allows registries (or in this case ICANN) to have policy authority and make fields such as Street #1 mandatory. The 2013 RAA requires that registrars collect, validate, and provision street and phone info
… so I don’t see how there’s any open question for discussion here. Besides, I can’t see how ICANN could ever allowed registrations that do not include a street address or phone number – it would make WHOIS accuracy efforts impossible.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Question #9 might be addressed in the registry contract. Does Spec 4 paragraph 1.3 allow the association of two Admin contacts to one domain, for example?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Question #10: go back to the Applicant Guidebook Question 26, and also look at contract Spec 4 paragraph 1.10. It is the Searchable WHOIS service that allows
wildcarding. The registry contract says that registries are not required to offer searchable WHOIS; those who want to can offer it. The contract also says that if it is offered, Searchable WHOIS must be provided on the Web-based WHOIS service ONLY, not
on port 43 (see Spec 3 paragraph 1.10.1). If ICANN is stating that port 43 output must return only one record at a time, that seems to be in keeping with the contract and is an FYI clarification, not a new requirement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gould, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gustavo Lozano<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gtld-tech] Whois advisory feedback meeting @IETF91</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Below are the notes that I took from the meeting. Hopefully others have additional notes to add or update to these. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Gustavo started the meeting by defining the purpose of the WHOIS Clarifications in clarifying items in Specification 4 of the New gTLD Registry Agreement and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation
Agreement (RAA), based on questions posted to ICANN. The goal was to not create new requirements. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Gustavo described changes between Version 1 and 2 of the WHOIS Clarifications. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Gustavo stated that new fields require the use of an RSEP. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">The new target date for enforcing the WHOIS Clarifications is March 31, 2015 instead of February 12, 2015. ICANN asked whether there is a more reasonable date and the feedback was “as late
as possible”. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">There was the recommendation to enable registries to test the PDT testing validation ahead of enforcing it. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - Can we wait for RDAP? RDAP will take time and we cannot wait.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - Why return non-existent fields using a key and empty value? </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">To stay in line with Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">It was brought up that there is a mix of including non-existent fields and also support for optional fields. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Excluding non-existent fields could also support Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement, since Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement did not include any empty fields. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Action Item - ICANN to bring the feedback back for internal discussion and provide a response to the gtld-tech list. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - Why is the contact name optional, since it’s required in EPP?</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">ICANN believed that it was either name or organization, but that is not the case. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Action Item - ICANN took note of this to address. The recommendation is update it to “Registrant/Admin/Tech[/Billing] Name and Organization - Name is required and Organization is optional"</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - Why is the contact phone and contact street required? </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Contact phone and street is a required field in the RAA. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Contact phone and street is not required in EPP and is not required for the registries, so therefore it should not be required in the Registry WHOIS. Cascading a Registrar requirement in the
RAA that is not a Registry or EPP requirement through to a Registry WHOIS requirement must not be done.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Action Item - ICANN took note of this to address.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - How to handle multiple contacts of the same type (Admin, Tech, Billing)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Specification 4 of the Registry Agreement only supports a single contact per type, so the Registry must select only one to display. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Question - Why include the requirement that WHOIS queries for domain name data MUST return only one record per WHOIS query? </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Multiple registries support wildcard queries in WHOIS, where if more than one object (domain or host) matches the query name ( with or without TLD ), a list of matching names is returned instead
of a single record. This is a useful feature that would need to be removed based on the Clarifications requirement. As earlier stated, the goal of the Clarifications was to not create new requirements. </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Action Item - ICANN took note of this to address. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 14, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Gustavo Lozano <<a href="mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org">gustavo.lozano@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Attached the slides that I used during this meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#101010">Please note that some of the clarifications / updates presented in the slides may change based on the feedback obtained during the meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Gustavo Lozano <<a href="mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org">gustavo.lozano@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 10:07<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: Whois advisory feedback meeting @IETF91</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The room has enough capacity for all of you interested in assisting physically based on the emails that I received.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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the time of the meeting (<a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20141113T15&p1=103&p2=1440"><span style="color:purple">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20141113T15&p1=103&p2=1440</span></a>).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Gustavo Lozano <<a href="mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org">gustavo.lozano@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, November 11, 2014 at 10:42<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><<a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Whois advisory feedback meeting @IETF91</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If you are at the IETF91, an informal meeting to get feedback about the Whois advisory published by ICANN (i.e. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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* Issuer: Symantec Corporation - Unverified</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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