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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexander Mayrhofer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2014 12:54<br>
<b>To:</b> Gustavo Lozano; gtld-tech@icann.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Fabien Betremieux<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gtld-tech] Draft Updated WHOIS Clarification Advisory v.20141209<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gustavo, Fabien,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">thanks for the update, and for addressing some of the issues that we discussed. I have reviewed the current draft version, and my feedback is as
follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MINOR: I.1 could still be improved regarding the seperation between registries and registrars. Since the Section title says that the clarification
applies to both registries and registrars, and the clarification mentions both Agreements, this could be misinterpreted as that both parties have to show all fields from both agreements – which is not intended, as i understood. Adding something like “section
1.4.2 of the RDDS spec of the 2013 RAA (applicable to Registrars only) ..” would make it clear with minimal text impact.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MINOR: Furthermore, I.1 just mentions section 1.5 of the Registry Agreement (which contains the domain object example), but does not mention
1.6 and 1.7 of the Agreement (which contains examples of the registrar and nameserver objecT). Is that intentional? Clarification I.13 for example mentions all three sections...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MAJOR: I.27 “Domain Name registrations MUST have one and only one administrative contact” is either badly written, or goes beyond the ICANN-defined
purpose of the document, because “Domain Name Registrations” in my opinion would also concern the input side (EPP), so that would be beyond scope of the WHOIS clarifications. I don’t see that requirement in the Registry agreement, and also EPP allows several
“admin-c” contact – furthermore, as discussed in Honolulu, several Registry operator do allow more than one admin-c. Therefore, my assumption is that this should read either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“_WHOIS output of_ Domain Name Registrations MUST have one and only one administrative contact” (in case it was really intended to limit
the admin-c output to one instance, as discussed in HNL), or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Domain Name registrations MUST have one and only one _<i>registrant</i>_ contact” (which would be in-line with the EPP input side, but
seems like a redundant requirement then)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MEDIUM: I.28/I.30/I.32 – i’m confused by the reference to I.28, because there doesn’t seem to be much of a choice in whether or not to
implement I.28 (“MUST NOT”)? So, given that there is no choice in I.28, that means that any registry has to implement I.30 (and no registry can implement I.32). That means that I.30 seems to be a new requirement? Given that Gustavo and Francisco said that
there is no intention to add new requirements via the clarifications, this should probably be changed/clarified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MEDIUM: I.34 seems to be a new requirement as well. I do understand, however, that since this is just a SHOULD, registries can elect to
not support that new type of query? Particularly, since (as described below), the authoritative source for any information about an IANA-registered registrar should be IANA / ICANN itself, rather than the individual registries...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">More on a general note, i’m confused why registries are required to supply such rich information for Registrars (including several contacts).
Essentially, information in the registry WHOIS could be reduced to displaying the IANA ID (and maybe the name, WHOIS server and registrar URL for convenience), because the set of registrars in all registries is defined to be a subset of the IANA registrar
registry anyways, and hence authoritative data can be fetched from the Registrar’s own WHOIS, or even IANA and/or ICANN itself..
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tia,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gtld-tech-bounce<span lang="DE">s@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Gustavo Lozano<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 01:41<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org">gtld-tech@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Fabien Betremieux<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [gtld-tech] Draft Updated WHOIS Clarification Advisory v.20141209<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Attached you will find the Draft Updated WHOIS Clarification Advisory. Two versions are provided for your reference: clean version and redline against
the original advisory (v 1.0) as published on 12 September 2014 (<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registry-agreement-spec4-raa-rdds-2014-09-12-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registry-agreement-spec4-raa-rdds-2014-09-12-en</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This draft version incorporates feedback gathered from various contracted parties, cases/emails sent to ICANN, the WHOIS Clarification Advisory meeting
held at IETF 91 in November, and feedback sent to the gtld-tech mailing list. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A conference call, with the objective of gathering feedback on this draft version, will take place on Tuesday 16 December 2014. If you want to participate
in the conference call, please send me an email to <a href="mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org">
fabien.betremieux@icann.org</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please send any feedback or questions you have on this version of the advisory to the mailing list as soon as possible, in order for ICANN Staff to
discuss internally and provide an answer during the conference call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* This advisory is not meant to create new requirements for contracted parties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* This advisory is not meant to redefine the WHOIS protocol.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">* This advisory resulted from questions sent by contracted and third parties seeking clarification on the Whois (RDDS) requirements in the New gTLD
base RA and 2013 RAA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Gustavo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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