<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you Scott,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am sold, so +1 on Scott’s suggestion.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class="">Kaveh.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 06 Oct 2015, at 14:53, Hollenbeck, Scott <<a href="mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com" class="">shollenbeck@verisign.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">It’s more than just policy, Kaveh – it’s implementation requirements that I’m suggesting should be developed with community consensus. Internet-Drafts can be (and have been)
written to document implementations of IETF standards. Here’s one example that became an Informational RFC:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3054/" class="">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3054/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">An Informational-intended document that describes protocol option settings could be developed for RDAP in a very similar way. What’s in the document now is incomplete, but it
would be a very good start, and as I said – I’m willing to help write.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Scott</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:05 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Hollenbeck, Scott<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> Gustavo Lozano; <a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org" class="">gtld-tech@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:eppext@ietf.org" class="">eppext@ietf.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Scott,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">With all due respect I disagree. The intent of the document is to outline ICANN’s “policy” towards it’s Registries and Registrars. It basically points out the RFC’s they have to comply with and outlines a few issues and provisions, mostly
ICANN specific requirements (for example details of address information) which IMHO is out of scope of an I-D. <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On the other hand, there are few issues pointed out in the document (specially the ones from Appendix A) which are good candidates for IETF discussions and possibly updating (or writing new) RFCs.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">All the best,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Kaveh.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 05 Oct 2015, at 13:11, Hollenbeck, Scott <<a href="mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com" class="">shollenbeck@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Gustavo, I’d very much prefer to see the profile described in an I-D and developed using the IETF’s consensus process. I’m also willing to back up that preference with writing
help as needed. I’ll have specific comments on the profile itself “soon”.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Scott</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="">EppExt
[<a href="mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org" class="">mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Gustavo Lozano<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, October 05, 2015 10:34 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gtld-tech@icann.org" class="">gtld-tech@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:eppext@ietf.org" class="">eppext@ietf.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[eppext] RDAP server of the registry</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">Hello,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, (see:<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html</span></a>),
this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented by ICANN-contracted parties.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user to get the registration data from the registrar, and
in the case of thick registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration date).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the following mechanism:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elements rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's
RDAP URL for the queried domain object.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">Questions for this group:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">* What do you think about this proposal? If you have different ideas on how to provide this functionality, please share it with the group.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">* What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an I-D?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Gustavo Lozano<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">ICANN<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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