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<p dir="auto">I thought that in the <strong>thick</strong> model, the Registry was the only authoritative source for the expiration date of the domain name.</p>
<p dir="auto">The documents linked there don’t provide an explanation on why the ‘registrar expiration date’, is needed at the registry level, they seem to focus on when but not on the why.</p>
<p dir="auto">Can we just simply say that the <strong>Registrar Expiration Date</strong> Is not applicable at the registry level?</p>
<p dir="auto">I’m just envisioning here having to implement yet-another-extension, and then try to get all RARs to update the information before a deadline, etc. </p>
<p dir="auto">Can someone please clarify what it is that we’re trying to achieve here?</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks!</p>
<p dir="auto">On 21 Jan 2016, at 14:54, Francisco Arias wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Hi Ben and Michele,</p>
<p dir="auto">The requirement has been discussed in the context of the Thick Whois Policy implementation. Please see <a href="https://whois.icann.org/sites/default/files/files/thick-rdds-consensus-policy-draft-25nov15-en.pdf">https://whois.icann.org/sites/default/files/files/thick-rdds-consensus-policy-draft-25nov15-en.pdf</a>, particularly section 2.1, starting on page 8. By the way, this document is in public comment at <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rdds-output-2015-12-03-en</a> until 31 January.</p>
<p dir="auto">Regards,</p>
<p dir="auto">--<br>
Francisco</p>
<p dir="auto">On 1/21/16, 2:30 PM, "<a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org</a><a href="mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org">gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of Benoit Levac" <gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of <a href="mailto:benoit.levac@rightside.co">benoit.levac@rightside.co</a><a href="mailto:benoit.levac@rightside.co">benoit.levac@rightside.co</a>> wrote:</p>
<p dir="auto">Francisco,</p>
<p dir="auto">I don't see any explanation for making registries store and publish the "Registrar Registration Expiration Date" in the "ICANN Thick Whois Policy Recommendation". What is the use case we are trying to solve for?</p>
<p dir="auto">Ben</p>
<p dir="auto">On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Francisco Arias <francisco.arias@icann.org<mailto:francisco.arias@icann.org>> wrote:</p>
<p dir="auto">On 1/21/16, 11:59 AM, "Gustavo Lozano" <gustavo.lozano@icann.org<mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org>> wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Hello colleagues,</p>
<p dir="auto">I uploaded an I-D<br>
(<a href="http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-lozano-ietf-eppext-registrar-expiration-date-">http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-lozano-ietf-eppext-registrar-expiration-date-</a><br>
00.txt) in order to define an EPP extension to support the transmission of<br>
the registrar registration expiration date from the registrar to the<br>
registry.</p>
<p dir="auto">This extension is defined in order to support the ICANN Thick Whois Policy<br>
Recommendation<br>
(<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/thick-final-21oct13-en.pdf</a>) that<br>
requires gTLD domain name registries to display the registrar registration<br>
expiration date in the Registration Data Directory Service (e.g. Whois,<br>
RDAP).</p>
<p dir="auto">Your feedback is appreciated.</p>
<p dir="auto">Regards,<br>
Gustavo</p>
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<p dir="auto">--<br>
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