[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Further Revised Draft Statement on .ORG Renewal

Holly Raiche h.raiche at internode.on.net
Tue Apr 30 10:46:58 UTC 2019


I agree with Bastiaan on this, and yes, at least start with Greg’s 30 April draft (thanks Greg for all your work on this and, as much as possible, reflecting views that have been expressed.

Holly

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net> wrote:
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>> On 30 Apr 2019, at 11:52, Justine Chew <justine.chew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Understood with thanks, Marita. I constantly struggle to balance competing arguments, in the form of prima facie views of end-users versus those touching on less-apparent yet broader policy implications, and I know I am not alone in this.
>> 
>> While I would much prefer if we could come to a consensus statement with a common position, but on the likelihood that we cannot reach (clear) consensus, I can make available for the WG's consideration and further improvements (for eg. including Olivier's point about registry fees) an alternate re-draft of Greg's 24 April draft.
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> Thanks, Justine - I’d be fine with you including Olivier’s point re correcting fees from registries that go to ICANN for inflation. But then please use the 30 April version of Greg’s draft statement ;-)
> 
> regards
> Bastiaan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 16:11, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>> So, perhaps the price cap removal could be delayed until after the market impact evaluation process that Greg has outlined in the new proposal was in place. Otherwise, there is no incentive to actually proceed with the process. I realize that evaluation process was intended for the .org part of the package but could apply to all.
>> 
>> That said, I am mostly concerned with the impact on .org. I know that some lobby groups have gone into overdrive over this issue -- but users don't respond to these things unless they truly feel threatened. And users have responded in droves.
>> 
>> If we ignore this, whatever the good reasons to release the caps which have been put forward here and which I understand, I don't think we are listening to end-users.
>> 
>> Marita
>> 
>> On 4/30/2019 9:46 AM, Justine Chew wrote:
>>> Thanks for the revised draft, Greg.
>>> 
>>> I'd rather hope that we could address all 3 .org, .biz. and .info RA renewals in a single statement in an attempt to consider inter-connected ramifications and while still verbalising support for ISOC without singling out the .org RA renewal.
>>> 
>>> My personal position is while I don't object to the proposed price cap removal because I see some merits in Jonathan's explanation, I think it might be worth considering doing so in a less abrupt fashion by deferring the price cap removal to give potential and existing registrants time/leeway to plan for/react to an eventual price cap removal. My proposition here has to do more with the impact of acquiescing to immediate price cap removals on the .biz, and .info TLDs, and by extension, on .com and .net TLDs eventually.
>>> 
>>> Justine
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>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 15:31, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Greg,
>>> 
>>> thanks for this revised draft. However, I deplore that once again my proposal of the Registry fees to ICANN following inflation is still not integrated to this Statement whilst this has received support from CPWG participants and I have heard nobody speaking against this.
>>> Kindest regards,
>>> 
>>> Olivier
>>> 
>>> On 30/04/2019 07:14, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I am attaching another, further revised draft public comment on the .ORG renewal, after sifting through the various recent conversations on the list.   I will try to circulate a redline in the morning, New York time, but can't right now.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought about including something on UA, but for .ORG and in the absence of proposed language, I did not see the obvious hook in this statement to bring that concept in.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
>>>> Greg Shatan
>>>> greg at isoc-ny.org
>>>> President, ISOC-NY
>>>> "The Internet is for everyone"
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