[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Further Revised Draft Statement on .ORG Renewal

Maureen Hilyard maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 16:55:08 UTC 2019


Good discussion issues. But dont get too bogged down. This paper has to
have some agreement by the end of the meeting for submission.

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019, 6:50 AM Greg Shatan, <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> A few responses to the various earlier emails.
>
> @Ricardo, Good point.  I think it makes sense to call for several studies
> over time, rather than a single study.
>
> @Olivier, My omission of your contribution was an oversight, not a
> conclusion that the view lacked support or was off-topic.  My apologies. I,
> for one, would be happy to add something on Registry fees to the draft.
> Please provide text or point me to the best iteration of your suggested
> text (which I missed, sadly).  Or I can take what is in Justine’s draft.
>
> Personally, I am not in favor of doing an economic study before removing
> the price cap.  As Jonathan notes, this work has already been done.  My
> thought was to have a study done in “real time,” based on observing the
> domain name market(s) after the caps were lifted, so that the effects could
> be accurately observed and analyzed, and used to inform future action.
> Predictive studies are by their nature speculative, and can more easily be
> bent in one direction or the other.. They tend to be more successful and
> reliable when the study structure and method is well-understood and
> time-tested (e.g., a pre-merger analysis).  A predictive study here may
> prove far less reliable and useful, given the number of variables and
> inputs and the novelty of the study.  I also think it’s an unrealistic
> request.  But as penholder, I will draft whatever the consensus becomes.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:11 PM Maureen Hilyard <
> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, John. I think a consensus call on the document will be
>> required  from this session because the extension we requested closes soon
>> after and Evin has to prepare the doc for submission. We can do
>> ratification by the ALAC after the fact but a recorded consensus would be
>> helpful.
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:50 AM John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maureen,
>>>
>>> In the event that you're not at tomorrow's meeting, do you want me to
>>> take any action on your behalf as vice chair?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Pixel 3XL
>>>
>>> John Laprise, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:59 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like this version Greg .
>>>>
>>>> In case I can't make tomorrow's CPWG meeting.  I believe the new
>>>> version provides a good compromise of the different views that have been
>>>> presented by the CPWG discussants. I like the idea of an economic study as
>>>> well as Marita's suggestion to delay any change until the results of such a
>>>> study were revealed.
>>>> I also prefer putting the RAs under one umbrella statement. The
>>>> separate .asia statement reinforces support for the inclusion of UA.
>>>> Anything else that is relevant would be in the general ALAC RA statement.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:14 PM Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am attaching another, further revised draft public comment on the
>>>>> .ORG renewal, after sifting through the various recent conversations on the
>>>>> list.   I will try to circulate a redline in the morning, New York time,
>>>>> but can't right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about including something on UA, but for .ORG and in the
>>>>> absence of proposed language, I did not see the obvious hook in this
>>>>> statement to bring that concept in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Shatan
>>>>> greg at isoc-ny.org
>>>>> President, ISOC-NY
>>>>> *"The Internet is for everyone"*
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> --
> Greg Shatan
> greg at isoc-ny.org
> President, ISOC-NY
> *"The Internet is for everyone"*
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