[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Discussion: End-users definition from At-large perspective

Alexander Schubert alexander at schubert.berlin
Thu Aug 8 23:43:26 UTC 2019

Hi Evan,


Thanks for the definition of ALAC’s mission – I saw this differently. Since 15 years at ICANN – and still learning ……





From: Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:45 PM
To: alexander at schubert.berlin
Cc: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Discussion: End-users definition from At-large perspective


On Wed., Aug. 7, 2019, 10:32 a.m. Alexander Schubert, <alexander at schubert.berlin> wrote:

We should distinguish between two groups of “Individual Internet users". Obviously we are looking at the DNS and it’s use, right? I see these two groups:

1.      The person who is using the DNS to navigate the Internet. That is: Visiting Internet domain names in order to reach websites or sending and receiving emails (among other use cases).

Yes, that is ALAC’s mandate 

2.      The registrants of domain names (insofar they utilize them for personal use)

There is an entire HALF of the GNSO, the non-contracted-party half, created explicitly to represent their interests. Indeed, that half of the GNSO is further subdivided into commercial and non-commercial groups.


 I for example use alexander.berlin and  <http://alexander.lv> alexander.lv as my virtual personal “calling cards”. I do not use them in any commercial activity. My needs and concerns (as Individual) about the governing of .berlin should be focus of ALAC in that respect.

The NCSG (and specifically NCUC) was made just for you. NCUC even has "non commercial user" in its name! Unlike ALAC it has voting rights in the body that can compel the ICANN Board.


(And Alexander, as a long time ICANN insider and former gTLD applicant, surely you must be aware of all that.) 


Why do you consider yourself entitled to influencing ICANN policy through two different vectors? The non registrant end-user has ALAC alone. 


You may have a problem with how well NCUC serves your needs as a registrant. But that's not ALAC's problem to solve, it has enough of its own 🙂. 


- Evan 

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