[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Discussion: End-users definition from At-large perspective

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Sat Aug 10 11:00:04 UTC 2019


Dear Alexander,

although Evan is saying it, it does not mean that he is right. I would
go with your definition.
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 09/08/2019 01:43, Alexander Schubert wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
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>  
>
> Thanks for the definition of ALAC’s mission – I saw this differently.
> Since 15 years at ICANN – and still learning ……
>
>
> Alexander
>
>  
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>  
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> *From:*Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evanleibovitch at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:45 PM
> *To:* alexander at schubert.berlin
> *Cc:* CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Discussion:
> End-users definition from At-large perspective
>
>  
>
> On Wed., Aug. 7, 2019, 10:32 a.m. Alexander Schubert,
> <alexander at schubert.berlin> wrote:
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>     We should distinguish between two groups of “Individual Internet
>     users". Obviously we are looking at the DNS and it’s use, right? I
>     see these two groups:
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>     1.      The person who is using the DNS to navigate the Internet.
>     That is: Visiting Internet domain names in order to reach websites
>     or sending and receiving emails (among other use cases).
>
> Yes, that is ALAC’s mandate 
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>     2.      The registrants of domain names (insofar they utilize them
>     for personal use)
>
> There is an entire HALF of the GNSO, the non-contracted-party half,
> created explicitly to represent their interests. Indeed, that half of
> the GNSO is further subdivided into commercial and non-commercial groups.
>
>  
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>      I for example use alexander.berlin and alexander.lv
>     <http://alexander.lv>as my virtual personal “calling cards”. I do
>     not use them in any commercial activity. My needs and concerns (as
>     Individual) about the governing of .berlin should be focus of ALAC
>     in that respect.
>
> The NCSG (and specifically NCUC) was made just for you. NCUC even has
> "non commercial user" in its name! Unlike ALAC it has voting rights in
> the body that can compel the ICANN Board.
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>  
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> (And Alexander, as a long time ICANN insider and former gTLD
> applicant, surely you must be aware of all that.) 
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>  
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> Why do you consider yourself entitled to influencing ICANN policy
> through two different vectors? The non registrant end-user has ALAC
> alone. 
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> You may have a problem with how well NCUC serves your needs as a
> registrant. But that's not ALAC's problem to solve, it has enough of
> its own 🙂. 
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>  
>
> - Evan 
>
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