[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Haunted by Europe's GDPR, ICANN sharpens wooden stake to finally slay the Whois vampire • The Register

Holly Raiche h.raiche at internode.on.net
Tue Oct 29 09:21:34 UTC 2019


I think you mean, RDAP can be configured to provide access based on whatever it is configured to provide access to.  Given privacy protections globally, I am not sure access to all private data would be granted - not because it could not be provided, but because it should not be provided - that depends on the regulatory framework.

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 7:52 PM, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Holly,
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> The Registration data that would provide gated access (possibly to different layers based on the degree of authenticity or the levels of privilege?) could also concede blanket, open access to the whois to a transparent layer of Registrant data.
> 
> Sivasubramanian M
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> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 12:02 PM Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net <mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>> wrote:
> Folks
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> A bit of history. A few years ago, there was a major review of Whois.  One of the many issues identified was simply the term: it has been used to refer to the data collected (as required by the RAA), the protocol or the service.  In the reforms, what was clarified as the terminology - we are talking about registration data (the same stuff required by the RAA), or RDAP - the registration data protocol.  In fact the IETF developed the protocol - RDAP- to greatly improve the functionality of the old WHOIS Protocol - which, amongst other limitations, could not provide gated access and therefore, would not permit compliance with privacy regimes such as the GDPR.
> 
> So the data is still that required to be collected under the RAA - it is now called registration data.  The RDAP can be configured to allow gated access to the registration data - as required under the GD
> PR. So same data - improved protocol.
> 
> Holly
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 3:52 PM, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Why should RDAP be a replacement? Whois ought to co-exist with it's own purpose, whois in conformity to GDPR (in an appropriate manner), whois redesigned to address concerns also on the need for transparency of commercial webspaces to minimize perhaps the most harmful form of DNS abuse.
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>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 12:01 AM Michael Palage <mike at palage.com <mailto:mike at palage.com>> wrote:
>> Eduardo,
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>> It should not.  In fact RDAP will provide great flexibility for potential solutions for differentiated access.
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>> Best regards,
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>> Michael
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>> From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Eduardo Diaz
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 12:17 PM
>> To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists icann. org <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; CPWG <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>; NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Haunted by Europe's GDPR, ICANN sharpens wooden stake to finally slay the Whois vampire • The Register
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>> Will this affect the current EPDP which its main focus has been Whois?
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>> -ed
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>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:37 AM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/23/icann_kills_whois/ <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/23/icann_kills_whois/>
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>> Carlton
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>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 12:01 AM Michael Palage <mike at palage.com <mailto:mike at palage.com>> wrote:
>> Eduardo,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It should not.  In fact RDAP will provide great flexibility for potential solutions for differentiated access.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Eduardo Diaz
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 12:17 PM
>> To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>>
>> Cc: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists icann. org <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; CPWG <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>; NA Discuss <na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Haunted by Europe's GDPR, ICANN sharpens wooden stake to finally slay the Whois vampire • The Register
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Will this affect the current EPDP which its main focus has been Whois?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -ed
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:37 AM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/23/icann_kills_whois/ <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/23/icann_kills_whois/>
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>>  
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>> Carlton
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