[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR

Bastiaan Goslings via CPWG cpwg at icann.org
Thu Nov 14 09:18:48 UTC 2019


On 14 Nov 2019, at 03:37, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the explanation and clarification, Justine. Doesnt sound as doom and gloom as initially assumed. 

Maybe, but re:

>> there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.

Anyone who can share her/his reflection on

https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/#comment-2257744

?

Thanks,
Bastiaan


>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 4:33 PM Justine Chew, <justine.chew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved.
>> 
>> The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council.
>> 
>> PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.
>> 
>> We shall see.
>> 
>> Justine 
>> -----
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>>>> Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters?
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>>>>> I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maureen 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marita
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- 
>>>>> Subject: ISOC sells PIR 
>>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 
>>>>> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> 
>>>>> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> 
>>>>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light.  I will keep you posted as I learn more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acquire-Public-Interest-Registry-Internet 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>> 
>>>>> NCSG Chair
>>>>> 
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