[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] EFF : Nonprofit Community Stands Together to Protect .ORG

Kaili Kan kankaili at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 20:12:51 UTC 2019


After reading the letter signed by over 20 NGOs, I find it going beyond far
potential price increases.  The following are their listed concerns:

-- The power to raise .ORG registration fees without the approval of ICANN
or the .ORG community. A .ORG price hike would put many cash-strapped NGOs
in the difficult position of either paying the increased fees or losing the
legitimacy and brand recognition of a .ORG domain.
-- The power to develop and implement Rights Protection Mechanisms
unilaterally, without consulting the .ORG community. If such mechanisms are
not carefully crafted in collaboration with the NGO community, they risk
censoring completely legal nonprofit activities.
-- The power to implement processes to suspend domain names based on
accusations of “activity contrary to applicable law.”  The .ORG registry
should not implement such processes without understanding how state actors
frequently target NGOs with allegations of illegal activity.

If these are true, it seems that we have even more reasons to act.

Kaili

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 3:56 AM Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am somewhat comforted by the observation that the Free Software
> Foundation and Electronic Frontier Foundation have signed on to the site,
> neither of which is associated with being corporate proxies.
>
> I share your concern about ICA. However, at various points in history
> we've partnered with many different parts of the ICANN ecosystem and this
> time we happen to be on the same side as an organization we often consider
> as an adversary. Strange bedfellows indeed but why not?
>
> I maintain my position that PIR should be given more leeway to set prices.
> That's not the issue to me. The change of PIR from nonprofit to for-profit
> has far deeper implications for trust that price increases will be
> reasonable and serving an interest beyond maximizing revenue. I had trust
> that a nonprofit PIR would treat the removal of price caps with prudence. I
> have no such confidence in a profit-maximizing PIR.
>
> ___________________
> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto
> @evanleibovitch/@el56
>
> On Fri., Nov. 22, 2019, 1:50 p.m. Jonathan Zuck, <
> JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
>
>> I confess I’d be interested to see who is behind this site.  The talking
>> points are very similar to those with which we were bombarded by ICA during
>> the original discussions around .ORG. Deep down, we ALL know that the only
>> ones truly harmed by a price increase are volume registrants. It was you
>> who suggested that a price hike might actually be pro-consumer. Let’s not
>> lose site of all that because we’re pissed at ISOC. Let’s try to keep from
>> being manipulated again and do a reasoned analysis of the situation.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
>> Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Friday, November 22, 2019 at 1:41 PM
>> *To: *Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] EFF : Nonprofit Community Stands
>> Together to Protect .ORG
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a look at https://savedotorg.org
>>
>> Interesting list of signatories. Perhaps ALAC should endorse?
>>
>> ___________________
>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto
>> @evanleibovitch/@el56
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri., Nov. 22, 2019, 1:16 p.m. Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <
>> devtee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/11/nonprofit-community-stands-together-protect-org
>>
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