[IANAtransition] [IANAxfer] Is the scope fixed?

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Sun Apr 13 19:01:57 UTC 2014


thanks for this clarification. It might be good for ISOC to experiment with
some bottom-up position development if only to test that modus operandi.

v



On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:

>  Dear Vint,
>
>  I apoligize for not being having been clear enough. Indeed I know that
> the ISOC Board of Trustees is elected by its contituents (and not by the
> ISOC membership as a whole) using the fairly complex process specifed in
> the ISOC procedures at:
>
>
> http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/board-trustees/policies-and-procedures/selection
>
>
> I was not referring to that.  I was referring to the fact that ISOC
> positions are enunciated by the ISOC staff under the guidance of the ISOC
> Board. They are not submitted to the ISOC membership for approval, even if
> the ISOC membership is, at times, consulted when developing a position.
> (But the ISOC membership was not consulted regarding the position that we
> are discussing here; the position dates back to 14 March).
>
> Note that I am not criticizing this: ISOC is an advocacy group, and there
> is nothing wrong with that.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Vint Cerf [mailto:vint at google.com]
> *Sent:* dimanche, 13. avril 2014 18:55
> *To:* rhill
> *Cc:* John Curran; Ianatransition at Icann. Org; Ianaxfer at Elists. Isoc. Org
> *Subject:* Re: [IANAxfer] Is the scope fixed?
>
> richard, the board of isoc is elected by its constituents. Did you think
> otherwise?
>
> v
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM, rhill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
>
>>  Dear John,
>>
>> Thanks for this.  There is actually a statement that is even more
>> explicit than what you say below: "The roles on policy development
>> processes of the Internet technical organizations and ICANN's role as
>> administrator of the IANA functions, remain unchanged."
>>
>> Do you know whether this statement was developed on the basis of a
>> bottom-up process and whether there was consensus for it? Except for ICANN
>> where we know that it is a management decision and ISOC which is not a
>> bottom-up organization.
>>
>> Thanks and best
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: John Curran
>> Date:13/04/2014 18:24 (GMT+01:00)
>> To: rhill at hill-a.ch
>> Cc: "Ianaxfer at Elists. Isoc. Org" ,"Ianatransition at Icann. Org"
>> Subject: Re: [IANAxfer] Is the scope fixed?
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 2:12 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
>>
>> > The President and CEO of ICANN has stated:
>> >
>> > "Specifically, I wish to assure you that the U.S. government, including
>> the
>> > NTIA, has approved the scoping document [PDF, 456 KB], and it is
>> consistent
>> > with the views of the leaders of various Internet organizations
>> including
>> > the Internet Engineering Task Force, the Internet Society and the
>> Regional
>> > Internet Registries."
>> >
>> > This is at http://blog.icann.org/2014/04/training-wheels-off/
>> >
>> > So maybe the current discussion on the scoping document is out of scope.
>> >
>> > But could somebody point me to statements from NTIA, ISOC, IETF, and the
>> > RIRs to that effect?
>>
>> The likely reference is this statement, as endorsed by the individual
>> leaders of
>> several of the Internet technical organizations:
>>
>> <
>> http://www.nro.net/news/internet-technical-leaders-welcome-iana-globalization-progress
>> >
>>
>> The statement does not directly address the scope of the forthcoming
>> discussions,
>> but it does welcome the change in IANA stewardship as proposed by NTIA
>> and notes
>> the continuity in policy development roles of these organizations as well
>> as ICANN’s
>> role as administrator of the IANA functions.  It is also notes the
>> feasibility of
>> this transition due to the maturity of these organizations, that ICANN is
>> going
>> to facilitate a global, multi-stakeholder process to plan for the
>> transition, and
>> that we are committed to further strengthening our processes and
>> agreements related
>> to the IANA functions.
>>
>> To the extent that the scoping document notes similar principles and
>> roles, it is
>> quite consistent the Internet technical leaders statement referenced
>> above.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>>
>> Disclaimer: My views alone.
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