[IANAtransition] On Enhancing ICANN Accountability

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Sat May 31 01:42:00 UTC 2014

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 31 May 2014 02:03, "Michel S. Gauthier" <mg at telepresse.com> wrote:
> At 21:19 30/05/2014, Tamer Rizk wrote:
>> @Michel, Sovereignty is the quality of having independent authority over
a geographic area.
> This looks an outdated Westphalian concept to me. Sovereignty means
absolute authority. Not bound by foreign laws
I hope you agree that nations are example of sovereign entity. So when a
nation by it's sovereignty does things against the global law (UN's), then
such country gets penalized.
Would you then agree that the UN rules is foreign and nations bound by
them. Does that diminish nation's sovereign rights? I don't think so.
However does it make sovereignty geographical/sectional? I do think so

>> Since the geographic area you are hypothesizing is unclear in your
statement, I can only clarify that the implied intention of the document is
to reiterate the necessity for all interests to ensure a future of good
Internet governance through separate, interdependent organizations, each
with the power to hold the other accountable.
> This is what is called multilateral equilibrium. Subject to international
laws. At least for those accepting an UN environment.
>> If I understand your concluding remark correctly, then yes, I would
agree that DNS policy may be constrained to impartiality through the
careful demarcation of RZM and IANA functions between said organizations.
> Sorry, but all what I mean is that the sovereign ICANN DNS police is
starting to upset (or "abuse" :-)) an increasing number of people. This is
probably one of the motivation for an Internet User declaration of
independence from ICANN and ICE.
> I do not know if you noticed that digital cyberspace is increasingly
considered as a fifth battle area. IMHO people should rather take advantage
from Hugo de Groot.
> M S G
>> Michel S. Gauthier wrote:
>>> All this has a simple name. What is discussed is "ICANN sovereignty".
>>> Why not to call things by their name.
>>> Sovereignty means potestas against multitude's potentia and external
>>> potestas.
>>> As long as there is no ICANN-Cyber-Command this is waffling. Let first
>>> discuss the DNS police abuses.
>>> M S G
>>> At 03:29 30/05/2014, Tamer Rizk wrote:
>>>> PDF Attached
>>>> Tamer Rizk wrote:
>>>>> In its overview on Enhancing ICANN Accountability, ICANN's Senior
>>>>> Advisor to the President on Strategy graciously offers a window of
>>>>> "opportunity for public dialogue and community feedback" to be heard
>>>>> during an "accountability discussion that will take place entirely
>>>>> within the ICANN community". The overview sets forth a number of
>>>>> questions to the public that were designed by ICANN to provide input
>>>>> the ICANN Accountability Working Group, in order for ICANN to craft
>>>>> framework for its Accountability to the Public. Primarily, ICANN would
>>>>> like to consider the issues that the public identifies as being core
>>>>> strengthening such accountability.
>>>>> In essence, Accountability is the answerability, liability, and
>>>>> expectation of account-giving, in response to, and remediation of,
>>>>> organizational misconduct. Thus, the issue underscoring reasonable and
>>>>> growing Public concern is that the ethical development of a framework
>>>>> for accountability should endeavor to correspond to those whom which
>>>>> Organization should be answerable, as opposed to the Organization
>>>>> itself. It should address how they may, independent of the
>>>>> hold the Organization liable to remediation, and it should reflect
>>>>> the Organization truly believes that account-giving is forthcoming.
>>>>> In ethics, and in governance, the core issue necessitating
>>>>> accountability is the preservation of social equity within a diverse
>>>>> power spectrum comprised of individual citizens, fledgling businesses,
>>>>> governments varying in size and nature, special interests and larger
>>>>> corporations. Throughout history nations have struggled with
>>>>> failures in ability to maintain the fairly impartial administration of
>>>>> accountability from evolving into anarchy or tyranny at either
>>>>> Today, modern governments largely curtail a breakdown in systemic
>>>>> accountability through the separation of mutually dependent
>>>>> each empowered with mechanisms to hold the other accountable,
>>>>> by processes to facilitate public recourse.
>>>>> In the current trajectory towards Internet Governance and the
>>>>> for accountability, when ICANN finally determines how it should be
>>>>> accountable to the greater global community comprising individuals,
>>>>> governments and businesses that must increasingly depend on the
>>>>> impartial provision of IANA functions far into the future, the Public
>>>>> may hope to continue to find opportunities to address ICANN, via well
>>>>> established procedures, such as the submission of complaints to
>>>>> "Office of the Ombudsman" in accordance with the bylaws instated by
>>>>> ICANN. It should be noted that the common definition of Ombudsman is
>>>>> government official appointed to receive and investigate complaints
>>>>> against abuses or capricious acts of its officials". Individual,
>>>>> Corporate and National Citizens of the Internet may feel fortunate
>>>>> such an Office exists at present. To this effect, the burden is on
>>>>> very Citizens to collaboratively ensure that Accountability is
>>>>> adequately and enduringly developed to preserve the equity of the
>>>>> structures governing the Internet of tomorrow.
>>>>> /TR/
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