[ICANN-CSC] [Ext] Re: Agenda: CSC November Meeting 25, Friday, 16 November, 19:00-21:00 UTC

Fri Nov 16 20:09:40 UTC 2018

Great information Naela and Kim !!!!
Thanks for providing further insight into gTLD/ccTLD delegation/transfer
process.

Regards,
Gauarv

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:57 PM Kim Davies <kim.davies at iana.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Some additional thoughts I had on top of Naela’s regarding the differences
> between gTLDs and ccTLDs:
>
>
>
>    1. gTLD qualification criteria are highly structured and explicit (see
>    the applicant guidebook, which provides 100s of pages of requirements),
>    whereas ccTLD qualification criteria are driven by some high-level, rather
>    vague principles, married with basic operational guidance we provide as
>    help documents. This is in part due to the fact that ccTLDs are highly
>    empowered to structure their operation in many different ways, so our
>    guidance cannot be very prescriptive.
>    2. gTLD qualification is predominantly assessed prior to IANA
>    receiving the request by third party assessors (i.e. evaluation panels)
>     that ICANN contracted, with overall fitness being assessed based on those
>    panel outputs within what is now ICANN GDD, whereas for ccTLDs all of the
>    due-diligence is performed within the IANA functions.
>    3. It is typical the party applying for a ccTLD has never applied for
>    one before, whereas gTLD requests are often driven by either RSPs,
>    consultants, or other entities with a portfolio of gTLDs. Thus the typical
>    gTLD requester is probably very familiar with the process, whereas the
>    ccTLD requester would typically not be.
>    4. ccTLD requests are often driven by regulators or other government
>    representatives that can be at arms length from actual operations, and the
>    people we are communicating with may not be fully empowered or sufficiently
>    informed to communicate the breadth of their operations or plans without
>    going back and consulting with others.
>    5. ccTLD requests often describe a speculative future operation rather
>    than one that is in existence at time of initial application. gTLDs on the
>    other hand are often supported by existing RSPs with a deployed platform,
>    and need to be ready for it to be tested operationally due to the
>    requirement to pass pre-delegation testing before the IANA delegation
>    process.
>
>
>
> kim
>
>
>
> "ICANN-CSC on behalf of Naela Sarras" <icann-csc-bounces at icann.org on
> behalf of naela.sarras at iana.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Brett,
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>
>
> Thank you for your email.
>
>
>
> Regarding your questions below about the delegation/transfer process for
> ccTLDs as opposed to gTLDs:
>
>
>
> 1.      The answer is no. The same challenge does not exist on the gTLD
> side. The difference between processing a request for the delegation or
> transfer of a gTLD vs a ccTLD is in the request review and validation
> process. On the gTLD side, the request is submitted to IANA for delegation
> by the requester after it has completed the validation reviews and
> contracting with ICANN. As such, IANA’s process is to confirm all the
> validations are completed and from there the delegation or transfer process
> is fairly simple.
>
> On the other hand, requests for ccTLD delegation or transfer are processed
> by IANA staff from beginning to end.
>
> 2.      Depending on the quality of the documents when the request is
> submitted, this process could take several months of back and forth. Right
> now the metric is 60 days for staff review, regardless of where that time
> is spent in the process (reviewing documentation, writing a report plus
> routine processing steps.) I think you bring up a good point to count staff
> review time for ccTLD delegation/transfer once a minimum set of
> requirements has been met. We should have this discussion when we discuss
> the new threshold for ccTLD delegation/transfer request as this is one of
> the metrics currently under review by the CSC and subject to change once
> the SLA change mechanism is implemented.
>
> 3.      To help with the challenges above, we are looking at ways in
> which we can better communicate the documentation requirements for the
> ccTLD delegation or transfer process. This includes translation of key
> documents and creating a workflow form or interface to collect the
> information from the user.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Naela
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/15/18, 4:55 AM, "Brett Carr" <brett.carr at nominet.uk> wrote:
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> Thanks Naela as a new member this was really useful as background.
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>
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> I support the direction that has been taken so far.
>
>
>
> With regards to the metric around ccTLD creation/redelegation, you mention
> that the quality of the submitted documentation is variable and this
> affects the ability to stay within the SLA. This made me think of two
> questions/comments:
>
>
>
>    1. Does the same problem exist on GTLDs if not why not, can we use
>    experiences in that arena to try and solve this problem. I realise of
>    course there are many more GTLD Changes than ccTLD.
>
> 2.      Can we define/set a minimum level of quality of submitted
> documentation and only start the time for this metric when that has been
> met.
>
>
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>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Brett
>
>
> --
> Brett Carr
> Manager DNS and Network Engineering
> Nominet UK
>
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> *From: *ICANN-CSC <icann-csc-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Naela Sarras
> <naela.sarras at iana.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 November 2018 at 22:19
> *To: *Maria Otanes <maria.otanes at icann.org>, "ICANN-CSC at icann.org" <
> icann-csc at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [ICANN-CSC] Agenda: CSC November Meeting 25, Friday, 16
> November, 19:00-21:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>
> Please find attached some background information we put together with
> regards to the proposed SLA changes. As promised during the last CSC
> meeting, this is mainly for the benefit of the new CSC members.
>
>
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Naela
>
>
>
>
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> On 11/9/18, 1:15 PM, "ICANN-CSC on behalf of Maria Otanes" <
> icann-csc-bounces at icann.org on behalf of maria.otanes at icann.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear CSC,
>
>
>
> Please find the agenda for the November CSC meeting in the Wiki space
> below and attached.
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>
>
> The next call will be held next Friday, 16 November, at 19:00-21:00 UTC.
>
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> The Wiki agenda page can be found here:
> https://community.icann.org/x/_QXVBQ
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>
>
> Have a great weekend,
>
> Ria
>
>
>
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Regards,
Gaurav Vedi
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