<div dir="ltr">Hello<div><br><div>The charter review team is having some confusion about the SLA change procedure, and the relevant text in the Charter. The charter review team was looking for guidance on which types of changes in the procedure doc are material and non material. But as you said Kal, "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">The document contains procedures for all types of changes." <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I provided some examples to the charter review team of SLA changes that have been discussed (technical checks) and are in discussion (LGR/IDN tables) to help clear up confusion. </span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Bart and I are working to put together some text that: refers back to the note from Sam (ICANN legal) that creates the room to get this procedures into place; includes the cover letter that spells out the need for a change procedure; and somehow gives the CSC and IFO allowance to determine when a change is considered "material" as they come up, rather than trying to define what's material or not in the change procedure doc.</span></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">More to come. </span></font></div><div><br>Elaine</div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Feher, Kal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kalman.Feher@team.neustar" target="_blank">Kalman.Feher@team.neustar</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>The most recent version of these that I have is the document shared by Allen on the CSC list.</div>
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<div>Note that this appears to be at odds with the placeholder text in the Charter review team's report, as shared on list a few weeks back, which focuses only on minor changes. The document contains procedures for all types of changes.</div><span class="">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Elaine Pruis <<a href="mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com" target="_blank">elainepruis@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, 15 March 2018 at 13:05<div><div class="h5"><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Kal Feher <<a href="mailto:kalman.feher@team.neustar" target="_blank">kalman.feher@team.neustar</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Jay Daley <<a href="mailto:jay@nzrs.net.nz" target="_blank">jay@nzrs.net.nz</a>>, Byron Holland <<a href="mailto:byron.holland@cira.ca" target="_blank">byron.holland@cira.ca</a>>, Bart Boswinkel <<a href="mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org" target="_blank">bart.boswinkel@icann.org</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">HI.
<div>So... the review team is not waiting on the letter (we discussed the need to include reference to the SLE change procedure, there is placeholder language in the charter review team report as such, see previous email threads.)</div>
<div>They are waiting for the actual SLE change proposals.</div>
<div>Can you send those please?</div>
<div>Thansk</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Feher, Kal <span dir="ltr">
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<div>I've attached an update of the letter I sent around originally. The only change I've made was to include a line from Allen's suggestion regarding the level of Registry engagement being commensurate to the change. All changes should be communicated to Registries,
but not all changes should go through a heavy public comment process or similar.</div>
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<div>I suppose the letter lacks the usual ICANN intro wording. Does that matter? Should I share the document with the larger list or if there are no further revisions should we send it onwards? </div>
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<div>Note that I did send a draft to Donna a few weeks back, so the review team should be aware that the letter is coming and aware of the content and its intent.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Elaine Pruis <<a href="mailto:elainepruis@gmail.com" target="_blank">elainepruis@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, 14 March 2018 at 02:07<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Jay Daley <<a href="mailto:jay@nzrs.net.nz" target="_blank">jay@nzrs.net.nz</a>>, Kal Feher <<a href="mailto:kalman.feher@team.neustar" target="_blank">kalman.feher@team.neustar</a>>, Byron Holland <<a href="mailto:byron.holland@cira.ca" target="_blank">byron.holland@cira.ca</a>>,
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Have you had a chance to review and incorporate Allan's comments?</div>
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If so, would you please send along to <a href="mailto:csc-review@icann.org" target="_blank">
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Subject: Re: [ICANN-CSC] Letter to CSC Charter Review team<br>
To: "Feher, Kal" <<a href="mailto:Kalman.Feher@team.neustar" target="_blank">Kalman.Feher@team.neustar</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:icann-csc@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-csc@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ICANN-CSC@icann.org" target="_blank">ICANN-CSC@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kal – I just looked at this for the first time this afternoon. It prompted me to go back and try to figure out where this stands. In the hope of perhaps saving
people a few steps, I believe that Jay and you produced the attached ‘Variable SLA Change Procedures’ document. It defined four categories of SLA changes: 1. New SLA, 2. Change SLA definition and target/threshold, 3. Change SLA target/threshold (only), and
4. Remove SLA. For three of the four categories (1, 2, 4) there would be ‘full community consultation’, while for 3, there would be no ‘full consultation’, but the CSC would directly consult the affected customer communities’. Unless this very sensible approach
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">“The CSC will develop appropriate processes for engagement with registry operators and the community commensurate with the
nature of the SLA change being proposed. While consultations with registry operators would always be required, where the changes proposed are more minor, such as a change to only a target/threshold, a full community consultation would not be required”.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Feher, Kal via ICANN-CSC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann-csc@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-csc@icann.org</a><span><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ICANN-CSC] Letter to CSC Charter Review team<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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