[Idngwg] ICANN 57 summary and resuming calls for IDNGWG

Sun Nov 20 08:19:26 UTC 2016

Dear All,

For those at ICANN 57, hope you have arrived home safely, rested and caught up with work.  

We had a good interaction at ICANN 57, where the room was full with community members.  Thanks to Edmon for leading the session and for others for attending the session in person and remotely.  

We received feedback from the community.    Here are some salient comments received (for those who attended, please feel free to add further).  Please see the attached transcript <http://schd.ws/hosted_files/icann572016/1c/I57%20HYD_Sat05Nov2016-IDN%20Implementation%20Guidelines%20WG%20Meeting-en.pdf>  of the session for details.

-          Repertoire may contain code points AND code point sequences.  So recommendations should be worded accordingly

-          Align definitions of label dispositions with those in RFC 7940 and clarify the label disposition state changes

-          Use of LGR (as a black box) should be explained in the guidelines to generate disposition and variants of a label

-          The relationship to root zone LGR and scope of guidelines may be clarified.  Can anything be said for root zone LGR, i.e. how second level and root level LGRs are same or different? 

o   We clarify how a particular point may be different at second level, from the root zone, in order to actually clarify the second level handling of that issue.

o   And if there are two LGRs that are in the same zone, even if it’s in the second level, they may have some harmonization requirements that are not really optional for a workable and secure system, which is different from parallel TLDs; Definition of a variant of a code point is unique and shared across all LGRs within a zone (within a single TLD)

We would now like to resume our calls.  I will schedule on for the coming week.  

Regards,
Sarmad

From: idngwg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:47 PM
To: idngwg at icann.org
Subject: [Idngwg] IMPORTAN: ICANN 57 presentation and working draft document available for circulation

Dear All,

The updated document <https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines?preview=/56144699/63146672/IDN%20Guidelines%204.0%2020161102.pdf>  has been uploaded to the IDNGWG wiki page <https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines>  and the presentation <http://schd.ws/hosted_files/icann572016/bb/ICANN57%20IDNGWG.pdf>  has been uploaded in the ICANN 57 schedule page for this session <https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8cwK/internationalized-domain-name-implementation-guidelines-working-group-meeting> .  

Please share with your colleagues and encourage them to come attend the session <https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8cwK/internationalized-domain-name-implementation-guidelines-working-group-meeting>  and provide feedback.

Regards,
Sarmad

From: idngwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org>  [mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 10:58 PM
To: Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka at verisign.com <mailto:dtantanaka at verisign.com> >; idngwg at icann.org <mailto:idngwg at icann.org> 
Subject: Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations

Dear All,

As there is no additional feedback, we will finalize the document based on Dennis’ comments and upload to the wiki page for sharing with community members.

Regards,
Sarmad

From: idngwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org>  [mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:46 AM
To: Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka at verisign.com <mailto:dtantanaka at verisign.com> >; idngwg at icann.org <mailto:idngwg at icann.org> 
Subject: Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations

Dear Dennis, thank you for your detailed feedback and suggestions. “Cont.” means “continued”.  I put that in as we have partially discussed (and have one recommendation) on IDN Variant Labels and may do further work on this topic.  For other topics, not yet discussed, I have put in “TBD”.  We do not have a target date at this time, but that is something we can discuss and decide.

Dear all, 

please use the document with the edits by Dennis for any further suggestions. 

Regards,
Sarmad

From: Tan Tanaka, Dennis [mailto:dtantanaka at verisign.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 1:56 AM
To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain at icann.org> >; idngwg at icann.org <mailto:idngwg at icann.org> 
Subject: Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations

Sarmad, et al

Please find enclosed proposed edits and questions.

Good work!

-Dennis

From: <idngwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:idngwg-bounces at icann.org> > on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain at icann.org> >
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 at 12:17 PM
To: "idngwg at icann.org <mailto:idngwg at icann.org> " <idngwg at icann.org <mailto:idngwg at icann.org> >
Subject: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations

Dear All,

Your feedback is requested especially on items 2 and 3 below by 1 Nov. before posting and circulating for ICANN 57.

Please find attached the following:

1.       Summary of our meeting on 27 October 2016 (docx + pdf).  Please let me know in case of any changes.  

2.       Updated Guidelines document (docx + pdf), also published at our wiki page (to be circulated to the community on 2 Nov.)

3.       The two updated presentations based on the discussion during the call (please see the attached meeting notes for the changes made)

>From the meeting, we have the following action items:

S. No.

Action Items 

Owner

1

Review updated recommendation 12 on IDN Variant Labels

ALL

2

Update the ICANN 57 presentations and share with the IDNGWG for finalization

SH

The attached notes of the meeting, the recording of the meeting and the Guidelines document are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines[community.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_IDN_IDN-26-2343-3BImplementation-26-2343-3BGuidelines&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=0s4VGJ7b2ZJHFldc1msrR-YjtmEkBg1rh_xnqDgFfYQ&e=> . 

Our next meetings are planned during ICANN 57, per the following details:

There is a 1hr15min face to face meeting of IDNGWG as per the following schedule:

*         Sat, 5 Nov., 1100-1215, Granite (Novotel): IDN Impl. Guidelines WG Meeting  

(https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8cwK/internationalized-domain-name-implementation-guidelines-working-group-meeting[icann572016.sched.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann572016.sched.org_event_8cwK_internationalized-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dimplementation-2Dguidelines-2Dworking-2Dgroup-2Dmeeting&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=zgPMEX5eMSCnN5IqguaD8S-EghsVb8dUvqNgUH_E9VE&e=> )  

In addition, there is a 7 minute update by IDNGWG during the IDN Program Update session, as per the following details:

*         Sun, 6 Nov., 0830-0945, MR 1.02: IDN Program Update (7 min update by IDNGWG)

(https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8dPX/internationalized-domain-name-program-update[icann572016.sched.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann572016.sched.org_event_8dPX_internationalized-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dprogram-2Dupdate&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=BXKiCME9zeQt7rL5hawMUEqqR4AnRIQDRAlfT_fu64I&e=> ) 

o   IDN Program – Overview and Progress - 15 mins 

o   Update by Integration Panel – 10 mins

o   Update on IDN Implementation Guideline - 7 mins

o   Community Update

*  Ethiopic GP Update – 7 mins

*  Georgian GP Update – 7 mins

*  Neo-Brahmi GP Update – 7 mins

*  Thai GP Update – 7 mins 

o   Q/A – 15 mins

Regards,

Sarmad

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