[Idngwg] [Ext] haven't received any response from you

Kal Feher icann at feherfamily.org
Sat Aug 18 01:01:42 UTC 2018


I think we still owe Yoshitaka a reply, unless one has gone out that I
have missed.


On 1/8/18 9:44 pm, Kal Feher wrote:
> I'd like to understand what exactly this group can and should do going
> forward with the guidelines at this stage?
>
> While it is certainly worth hearing from JPRS and their perspective on
> the guidelines, if the guidelines are unlikely to change until another
> draft is developed well into the future, we should be very clear about
> that fact to Yoshitaka and anyone else corresponding with the WG.
>
> As for Yoshitaka's points, my preference is always to err towards
> permissible guidelines and to let registries control their own fate. I
> think the guidelines do allow this. The guidelines say that exceptions
> to the requirement should be covered by IDN policies, which parallels
> Yoshitaka's suggestion that confusable registrations could be resolved
> via DRP (I presume he is using the common acronym for Dispute
> Resolution Policy). In my opinion the guidelines do not prevent JPRS
> from doing exactly as they wish.
>
> Kal
>
>
> On 31/7/18 10:03 pm, Mats Dufberg wrote:
>> [Internal message, Yoshitaka Okuno not included.]
>>
>> After reading the message Yoshitaka Okuno(1) I have the following
>> reflections and questions:
>>
>> He states regarding example in 2 below:
>>
>> "These may be regarded as confusable strings by some people."
>>
>> Does he then mean people outside the Japanese community?
>>
>> "But these consist of totally different characters with different
>> reading
>> and meaning, and each of them exists in reality. We think both words
>> should be allowed to be registered as domain name labels.
>>      Those words live in Japanese real life with no confusion."
>>
>> Does he mean that people from the Japanese community will have no
>> problem to differentiate between the two phrases? Or does he mean
>> that the two phrases are usually used in two different contexts so
>> that no real confusion happens?
>>
>> In whose eyes should the "visual similarity" sit?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mats
>>
>> (1) As far as I can see, Yoshitaka is a male's name and therefore
>> "he", "his".
>>
>> ---
>> Mats Dufberg
>> DNS Specialist, IIS
>> Mobile: +46 73 065 3899
>> https://www.iis.se/en/
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Idngwg <idngwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
>> "yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp" <yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp>
>> Date: Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 09:27
>> To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>, idngwg <idngwg at icann.org>
>> Cc: "yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp" <yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp>
>> Subject: Re: [Idngwg] [Ext] haven't received any response from you
>>
>>      Dear IDNGWG and Sarmad Hussain,
>>           Thank you for your confirmation.
>>      We feel very disappointed that our opinion is not adopted.
>>           We still cannot understand the basic concept of IDN
>> Guidelines.
>>           To understand your concept, we would like to show you some
>> typical
>>      cases of Japanese language words as follows.
>>           We would appreciate if IDNGWG could tell us their opinion
>> for each.
>>     
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      1. should confusable characters be forced out of repertoire?
>>           In defining a set of characters that can be used in
>> Japanese labels,
>>      we think that it is not appropriate to prohibit other characters to
>>      be used, leaving only one character, just because certain
>> characters
>>      are visually confusable to each other. That would inhibit natural
>>      expressions or daily-used input method.
>>           As we explained over and over again, Hiragana, Katakana and
>> Kanji
>>      characters can be mixed in an arbitrary order in Japanese words.
>>      And daily-used computer input method supports such typing.
>>           This illustrates the same situation where "l"/"O" is forced
>> out of
>>      repertoire just because "1"/"0" is visually confusable with
>> "l"/"O".
>>      In this case "fortune100.TLD" cannot be an applied-for label and
>> the
>>      applicant must apply for "fortuneloo.TLD" (el-ou-ou) instead of
>>      "fortune100.TLD". If ASCII labels follow the concept of guidelines,
>>      "1" and "0" are not allowed to be used in any labels at all.
>>           Therefore, our answer to the original question "should
>> confusable
>>      characters be forced out of repertoire?" is "No".
>>                Question for IDNGWG;
>>      Do you have any differnet opinions about this issues?
>>          
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      2. should confusable labels be blocked?
>>           Please see the following examples.
>>               "ハニー" (U+30CF, U+30CB, U+30FC) means "honey"
>>               "八二一" (U+516B, U+4E8C, U+4E00) means group name of
>> Japanese
>>          photographers "hani hajime"
>>           These may be regarded as confusable strings by some people.
>>           But these consist of totally different characters with
>> different reading
>>      and meaning, and each of them exists in reality. We think both
>> words
>>      should be allowed to be registered as domain name labels.
>>           Those words live in Japanese real life with no confusion.
>>           If there should be any problems on their use, they should
>> be resolved
>>      using DRP.
>>           Therefore, our answer to the original question "should
>> confusable labels
>>      be blocked?" is "No".
>>                Questions for IDNGWG;
>>      Do you think that only one of them is allowed to be registered
>> in the above
>>      example? And what is the reason and/or tangible ground of your
>> opinion?
>>     
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>           Best Regards,
>>      ----
>>      Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry Services
>> Co., Ltd.
>>                On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:21:36 +0000
>>      Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org> wrote:
>>           > Dear Yoshitaka Okuno,
>>      >
>>      > I apologize for the delay in responding, as I have been
>> traveling.
>>      >
>>      > Please find below the response from the IDN Guidelines WG to
>> your follow-up
>>      > query.
>>      >
>>      > Please separately let me know if you have a query or comment
>> for the
>>      > integration panel in the context of Japanese proposal for the
>> Root Zone LGR.
>>      >
>>      > Regards
>>      > Sarmad
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > -----------
>>      > Dear Yoshitaka Okuno,
>>      >
>>      > The IDN Guidelines WG had discussed the case of Japanese
>> writing system at
>>      > multiple meetings based on feedback received from JPRS.
>>      >
>>      > Kindly note that based on the definition of scripts by the
>> Unicode standard,
>>      > Japanese writing system mixes Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji
>> (Han) scripts.
>>      > Guideline 15 puts constraints on mixing scripts in general. 
>> But associated
>>      > Additional Notes have been added to note that Hiragana,
>> Katakana and Kanji
>>      > (Han) scripts along with ASCII are allowed to be mixed for the
>> Japanese
>>      > writing system.
>>      >
>>      > Guideline 16 is specifically applicable to all the script
>> mixing cases
>>      > allowed in Guideline 15.  Therefore, Guideline 16 will be
>> applicable to the
>>      > Japanese writing system as well.
>>      >
>>      > Regards,
>>      > IDN Guidelines WG
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > -----Original Message-----
>>      > From: yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp [mailto:yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp]
>>      > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 6:06 AM
>>      > To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>
>>      > Cc: yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana
>> <pitinan.koo at icann.org>;
>>      > idngwg at icann.org
>>      > Subject: RE: [Ext] haven't received any response from you
>>      >
>>      > Dear IDNGWG and Sarmad Hussain,
>>      >
>>      > I apologize for this delayed response due to false positive of
>> my SPAM
>>      > filter.
>>      >
>>      > Thank you for sharing our comments with IDNGWG members.
>>      >
>>      > We hope that the consequence is clearly described as follows
>> in item V of
>>      > "2.8 Additional Notes" to make readers unmistakably understand
>> the
>>      > guidelines.
>>      >
>>      > ===
>>      > Guideline 15:
>>      > For example, Japanese language normally mixes Hiragana,
>> Katakana and Han
>>      > scripts. Therefore, Japanese labels can be mixed strings of
>> Hiragana,
>>      > Katakana and Han characters, and shall be treated in the same
>> way as in a
>>      > single Unicode script. Also, for Chinese, ....
>>      > ===
>>      >
>>      > We should not treat "mixing of Hiragana, Katakana and Han" and
>> "mixing of
>>      > different language scripts" in the same rank, and we should
>> clearly state
>>      > this concept in the guidelines.
>>      >
>>      > We hope that you would share our additional comment as above with
>>      > Integration Panel members.
>>      >
>>      > Thanks and Regards,
>>      >
>>      > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services Co., Ltd.
>>      >
>>      > PS.
>>      > We still have a strong view that visual similarity should be
>> dealt with in
>>      > applications or DRP, not in domain name registration, if such
>> treatment is
>>      > needed. We hope this view will be communicated more openly later.
>>      >
>>      > Best Regards,
>>      > ----
>>      > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services Co., Ltd.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On Mon, 28 May 2018 05:26:17 +0000
>>      > Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org> wrote:
>>      >
>>      > > Dear Yoshitaka Okuno,
>>      > >
>>      > > Thank you for your response.
>>      > >
>>      > > This is to acknowledge its receipt and to confirm that your
>> response
>>      > > below has been shared with the IDNGWG members.
>>      > >
>>      > > Regards,
>>      > > Sarmad
>>      > >
>>      > > -----Original Message-----
>>      > > From: yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp [mailto:yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp]
>>      > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 9:06 AM
>>      > > To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>
>>      > > Cc: yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp; Pitinan Kooarmornpatana
>>      > > <pitinan.koo at icann.org>; idngwg at icann.org
>>      > > Subject: RE: [Ext] haven't received any response from you
>>      > >
>>      > > Dear IDNGWG and Sarmad Hussain,
>>      > >
>>      > > Thank you for your response.
>>      > >
>>      > > We summarized our understanding as below.
>>      > >
>>      > > Should this mail doesn't reach IDNGWG, I'd appreciate it if
>> Mr. Sarmad
>>      > > could forward it to IDNGWG.
>>      > >
>>      > > We have recognized that IDNGWG added Additional Note V and
>> VI to the
>>      > > Guideline as a result of discussion on our comments.
>>      > >
>>      > > We have understood that Japanese language shall not be
>> considered as
>>      > > "mixing of Unicode scripts" written in Guideline #16.
>>      > >
>>      > > Thanks again for your assistance.
>>      > >
>>      > > Best Regards,
>>      > > ----
>>      > > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services Co., Ltd.
>>      > >
>>      > >
>>      > >
>>      > > On Fri, 18 May 2018 06:04:54 +0000
>>      > > Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org> wrote:
>>      > >
>>      > > > Dear Yoshitaka Okuno,
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Please find below the response by the IDN Guidelines
>> Working Group
>>      > > (IDNGWG).
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Regards,
>>      > > > Sarmad
>>      > > > =============
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > > > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services Co.,
>>      > Ltd.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Dear Yoshitaka Okuno,
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Thank you for your emails.  The IDN Guidelines WG
>> appreciates the
>>      > > > continued input from JPRS, and had discussed the input at
>> multiple
>>      > > > WG meetings and the means to address it.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Please note that the Guidelines 15 and 16 in the proposed
>> version
>>      > > > 4.0 are not new.  These are a part of the existing version
>> 3.0 of
>>      > > > the IDN Guidelines, which are currently implemented (see
>>      > > >
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_r
>>      > > > es
>>      > > >
>>      > >
>> ources_pages_idn-2Dguidelines-2D2011-2D09-2D02-2Den&d=DwICJg&c=FmY1u3P
>>      > > Jp6wrc
>>      > >
>> rwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mx
>>      > > d028M4
>>      > >
>> &m=KR3mHCS8MRtbT2mH1CivMpm_Vg71we-wvho7cqN5Z9Q&s=FeWKN256bvrq6yzR-dhED
>>      > > -qNb7W nq8_cy1tkQv6CwGA&e=).  The existing guideline states:
>>      > > >
>>      > > > 5.            “All code points in a single label will be
>> taken from the
>>      > > > same script as determined by the Unicode Standard Annex
>> #24: Script
>>      > > > Names
>>      > > >
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.unicode.org
>>      > > > _r
>>      > > >
>> eports_tr24&d=DwICJg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r
>>      > > > =K
>>      > > >
>> TETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=KR3mHCS8MRtbT2mH1CivMpm
>>      > > > _V
>>      > > >
>> g71we-wvho7cqN5Z9Q&s=wkkgI6r04K42Ol_7w4Xo__C0IXBtXIKYZmKGmP4teq0&e=>.
>>      > > > Exceptions to this guideline are permissible for languages
>> with
>>      > > established orthographies and conventions that require the
>> commingled
>>      > > use of multiple scripts. Even in the case of this exception,
>> visually
>>      > > confusable characters from different scripts will not be
>> allowed to
>>      > > co-exist in a single set of permissible code points unless a
>>      > > corresponding policy and character table is clearly defined."
>>      > > >
>>      > > > For more clarity, in the proposed version 4.0 this
>> guideline has
>>      > > > been divided into two parts.  Guideline 15 addresses the
>> first part,
>>      > > > while Guideline 16 covers the second part of the existing
>> guideline:
>>      > > >
>>      > > > 15.          All code points in a single IDN label must be
>> taken from
>>      > the
>>      > > > same Unicode script as determined by the Unicode Standard
>> Annex #24:
>>      > > > Unicode Script Property
>>      > > >
>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.unicode.org
>>      > > > _r
>>      > > >
>>      > >
>> eports_tr24&d=DwICJg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=K
>>      > > TETvEa
>>      > >
>> GPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=KR3mHCS8MRtbT2mH1CivMpm_Vg71we-
>>      > > wvho7c
>> qN5Z9Q&s=wkkgI6r04K42Ol_7w4Xo__C0IXBtXIKYZmKGmP4teq0&e=).
>>      > > Exceptions to this guideline are permissible for languages with
>>      > > established orthographies and conventions that require the
>> commingled
>>      > > use of multiple Unicode scripts.
>>      > > > Also see Additional Notes V and VI.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > 16.          In the case of any exceptions made allowing
>> mixing of
>>      > Unicode
>>      > > > scripts, visually confusable characters from different
>> scripts must
>>      > > > not be allowed to co-exist in a single set of permissible
>> code
>>      > > > points unless a corresponding IDN policy and IDN Table is
>> clearly
>>      > > > defined to minimize confusion between domain names.  Also
>> see Additional
>>      > Note IV.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Considering the JPRS input and additional discussion by
>> its members,
>>      > > > the IDN Guidelines WG has made some finer clarifications
>> without
>>      > > > changing the intention of the original guideline in
>> version 3.0, as
>>      > > > per the details
>>      > > > below:
>>      > > >
>>      > > > 1.            For referring to Japanese case and other
>> cases, the WG
>>      > > > discussed that changes should be made in Guideline 15 and
>> not in
>>      > > > Guideline 16.
>>      > > > 2.            The WG considered that the use of “script”
>> may be
>>      > > ambiguous
>>      > > > and so changed the text to refer explicitly to “Unicode
>> script” as
>>      > > > defined in the Unicode script property.  This was implied
>> in the
>>      > > > original ver. 3.0 of the Guidelines, which had referred to
>> UTR 24.
>>      > > > 3.            In the context of “Unicode script”, Japanese
>> writing
>>      > > system
>>      > > > uses Hiragana, Katakana and Han. Therefore, based on JPRS
>> input, the
>>      > > > WG agreed to qualify Japanese writing system as a case
>> which mixes
>>      > > > "Unicode scripts" and therefore should be allowed by
>> default.  As
>>      > > > the guidelines themselves were intended to be generic, the
>> WG agreed
>>      > > > that this be done as an Additional Note and not in the
>> text of the
>>      > guideline.
>>      > > > 4.            Additional Note V was added to state that
>> Japanese is a
>>      > > known
>>      > > > case where Hiragana, Katakana and Han scripts are mixed.  
>> It also notes
>>      > > > that Chinese, Japanese and Korean IDN tables also mix
>> “a-z” ASCII.
>>      > > > Additional Note VI allows additional letters like digits
>> and hyphen
>>      > > > to be mixed in scripts, where relevant.  Therefore,
>> cumulatively
>>      > > > these notes allow for labels like "jpドメイン名の登録".  So
>> the
>>      > Additional
>>      > > > Notes
>>      > > V
>>      > > > and VI cover the concerns raised by JPRS to pre-qualify
>> "Unicode
>>      > > > script"-mixing in Japanese writing system.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Please also note that there are two separate guidelines
>> which call
>>      > > > for addressing similarity and confusability - no. 14
>> specifically
>>      > > > for within-script cases and no. 16 specifically for allowed
>>      > > > cross-script
>>      > > cases.
>>      > > > Therefore, no. 16 was not altered to be more generic. 
>> Both these
>>      > > > guidelines point to Additional Note IV, which suggest
>> additional
>>      > > > mechanisms for this purpose.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > We hope this clarifies the motivations of the WG on how it
>> has tried
>>      > > > to address the input from JPRS.  Please let us know if you
>> have any
>>      > > > further input or concerns.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Regards,
>>      > > > IDN Guidelines WG
>>      > > >
>>      > > >
>>      > > > -----Original Message-----
>>      > > > From: yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp [mailto:yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp]
>>      > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 2:49 PM
>>      > > > To: Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg at iis.se>
>>      > > > Cc: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at icann.org>; Pitinan
>>      > > > Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo at icann.org>
>>      > > > Subject: [Ext] haven't received any response from you
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Dear IDN guidelines WG Chair,
>>      > > > (CC: Sarmad、Pitinan)
>>      > > >
>>      > > > On 30 March, I sent you our proposed change on the IDN
>>      > > > implementation guidelines document, following the
>> suggestion made in
>>      > > > the WG public meeting in San Juan on 12 March (pasted
>> below). For
>>      > > > these one and half months, I have not received any
>> response to that from
>>      > you.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Today, I happened to find that "Final Proposed Draft v.
>> 4.0 of the
>>      > > > IDN Guidelines"
>>      > > >
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_n
>>      > > > ew
>>      > > > s_anno
>>      > > >
>> uncement-2D2018-2D05-2D10-2Den&d=DwICJg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkb
>>      > > > PS
>>      > > > S6sJms
>>      > > >
>> 7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=zptC-TxcZW
>>      > > > 1P
>>      > > > mY1jJ5
>>      > > >
>> LzXVqPvD3ZlsiKvb4agfECycQ&s=wxk9m-mdZnan6Q2PmV36GLfLEXk6eKFuZRXMIFdZ
>>      > > > Le
>>      > > > g&e=
>>      > > > was published.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > It was a surprise and disappointing for us to find it
>> without prior
>>      > > > correspondence regarding our proposal sent to you on 30
>> March.
>>      > > >
>>      > > > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > > > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services Co.,
>>      > Ltd.
>>      > > >
>>      > > >
>>      > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 17:40:59 +0900
>>      > > > yoshitaka at jprs.co.jp wrote:
>>      > > > > Dear IDN guidelines working group,
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > Please refer to the following comments and proposal.
>>      > > > > The comments and proposal are being sent to you,
>> following your
>>      > > > > suggestion made in IDN Guidelines Working Group meeting
>> in San Juan.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > In the working group meeting, the essence was orally
>> stated by
>>      > > > > Hiro Hotta, JPRS in the meeting room.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > I hope this may be of help to you.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > [Summary]
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > 1. As described in current guidelines, the issues of
>> visually
>>      > confusable
>>      > > > >    characters are not specific to the cases with
>> commingled use of
>>      > > > >    multiple scripts.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >    We believe Japanese domain labels fall on the
>> exceptional cases
>>      > > > >    stated in Guideline#15.
>>      > > > >    Kanji, Hiragana, and Katakana scrips are daily used in a
>>      > > > >    commingled manner based on established orthographies and
>>      > > > >    conventions in Japan. Such comingled use is allowed
>> even in
>>      > > > >    single words. This means Japanese people consider the
>> collective
>>      > > > >    set of Kanji, Hiragana, and Katakana characters to
>> belong to ONE
>>      > > > >    script in constituting Japanese words, just as native
>> English
>>      > > > >    writers/readers consider English characters to belong
>> to ONE
>>      > > > >    script.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >    Therefore, in the case where comingled use of UNICODE
>> scripts is
>>      > > > >    allowed by Guideline#15, restrictions (if any) should
>> be the same
>>      > > > >    as in the case of one UNICODE script in constituting
>> domain
>>      > > > >    labels.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > 2. In Additional Note IV, the guidelines of visually
>> confusable
>>      > > > >    characters are described. We think they are the good
>> notes because
>>      > > > >    the issues of visually confusable characters are
>> clearly pointed.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >    Taking into account the fact that issues of visually
>> confusable
>>      > > > >    characters reside both in the case of a single
>> UNICODE script and
>>      > > > >    in the case where comingled UNICODE scripts are
>> allowed, we think
>>      > > > >    the sentence "must not be allowed to" is
>> overdescribed in
>>      > > > >    guideline#16.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > [Suggestion]
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >   We would like to propose as follows.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >   - The guideline#16 is removed from section 2.5.2 and
>> is moved to
>>      > > > >     a newly created section between 2.5.2 and 2.5.3. The
>> new section
>>      > > > >     is headlined as "2.5.X Visually confusable characters".
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >   - The guideline#16 will be modified as follows.
>>      > > > >
>>      >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      > > > >     16.
>>      > > > >     Visually confusable characters had better not
>> co-exist in a single
>>      > > > >     set of permissible code points. TLD registries
>> should clearly
>>      > > > >     define a corresponding policy and IDN Table to
>> minimize confusion
>>      > > > >     between domain names. Also see Additional Note IV.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>      > > > > -
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > > Thanks for your consideration.
>>      > > > > ----
>>      > > > > Yoshitaka Okuno
>>      > > > > Manager, Services Development Department Japan Registry
>> Services
>>      > > > > Co., Ltd.
>>      > > > >
>>      > > > >
>>      > > >
>>      > > >
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