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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could someone define what harmonization means in the context of these guidelines? It seems to me that we are talking about homoglyph variants across scripts (e.g. Cyrillic a, Greek alpha and Latin a), so I am a bit confused about the new
term. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<br>
Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><idngwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"idngwg@icann.org" <idngwg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Idngwg] Minutes of meeting from 24 Nov.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The suggested text for AI 2 below does not address existing cases where harmonization may be needed and also suggests harmonization of existing IDN tables in the future when any changes are made. However, when
this harmonization is done, existing registrations which may be affected – e.g. “cox” may be registered both in Latin and Cyrillic scripts at second level under some TLDs, etc. So we need a discussion on how to address such cases.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> idngwg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 3:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> idngwg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] Minutes of meeting from 24 Nov.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please find attached summary of the meeting of the WG on 24 Nov. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The meeting had the following AIs:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action Items </b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Add footnote to refer to “code point sequences” and not add that in the text for readability
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Draft recommendation for harmonization of LGRs to be put in Section 2.7.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Confirm with WG members if it is ok to move to a weekly schedule</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here is the suggested text for review and feedback for AI 2 above:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red">If a combination of multiple LGRs and/or IDN tables is used to generate labels for the same zone at the second (or other) level, there are harmonization requirements for a workable
and secure system. The harmonization must be performed in cases where there are multiple LGRs and/or IDN tables either (i) from the same script which is known to have variant code points, e.g. based on analysis for the root zone, or (ii) from different scripts
which are considered related in the root zone and have homoglyphs, e.g. Armenian, Cyrillic, Greek, and Latin. In such cases, harmonization must be performed when there is either a change in existing LGR or addition of a new LGR. The harmonization must review
code point repertoire, variant analysis and whole label evaluation rules to ensure that there are no security and stability issues introduced.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please also note that the WG members in the meeting suggested moving to a weekly schedule to make more progress. Please let us know, if this does not work for you for any reason. Otherwise we will switch to
a weekly meetings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">The next meeting is schedule for 1 Dec. 11am UTC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines">https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edmon Chung <<a href="mailto:edmon@registry.asia">edmon@registry.asia</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] Updated document for call today (24 Nov.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you Edmon.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have added Edmon’s suggestions and summary of comments received during ICANN 57 (circulated earlier) in the attached updated draft.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Where it seemed relevant, reference to “code point sequence” in addition to “code point” is also added.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We will use this version for our discussion today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Edmon Chung [<a href="mailto:edmon@registry.asia">mailto:edmon@registry.asia</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE: [Idngwg] ICANN 57 summary and resuming calls for IDNGWG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Adding 2.6.2 as discussed at our meeting before the ICANN meetings, and some adjustments to the proposed definitions related to IDN Variants.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Edmon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">2.6 IDN Variant Labels (Partially Discussed)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">2.6.1 IDN Variant Labels generated by an IDN Table or a LGR must be allocated to the same registrant or blocked.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">2.6.2 Only IDN Variant Labels with a disposition of "allocatable" may be included in the DNS. IDN Variant Labels may be automatically delegated by the TLD registry in accordance with RFC 3743 (i.e. Preferred Variants),
otherwise IDN Variant Labels may be activated when requested by the Registrant (or through a sponsoring Registrar) of the Primary IDN.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Proposed Definitions to be included:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Variant</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">The term "variant" is used generally to identify different types of linguistic situations where different words are considered to be the same (i.e. a variant) of another word. Because of the wide-ranging understanding
of the term, to avoid confusion more specific terms such as "IDN Variant", "IDN Variant Character" or "IDN Variant Label" should be used.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">IDN Variant (IDN Variant Character and IDN Variant Label)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">IDN Variant is defined by an LGR. The term "IDN Variant" maybe used to reasonably describe an IDN Variant Character (code point or code point sequence) or an IDN Variant Label depending on its context. An IDN Variant
character is defined in relation to a base character within an IDN Table, such as expressed by an LGR. An IDN Variant Label is a string generated from a Primary IDN based on a given LGR (or IDN Table and IDN registration rules).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Primary IDN</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">Primary IDN is the string representing the domain name applied for submitted by a registrant.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-CA">===================================</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edmon Chung<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 21 November 2016 20:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Sarmad Hussain' <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] ICANN 57 summary and resuming calls for IDNGWG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Arial">Thanks Sarmad for the summary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Arial">Edmon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Arial"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:Arial"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] ICANN 57 summary and resuming calls for IDNGWG<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">For those at ICANN 57, hope you have arrived home safely, rested and caught up with work.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We had a good interaction at ICANN 57, where the room was full with community members. Thanks to Edmon for leading the session and for others for attending the session in person and remotely.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We received feedback from the community. Here are some salient comments received (for those who attended, please feel free to add further). Please see the attached
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__schd.ws_hosted-5Ffiles_icann572016_1c_I57-2520HYD-5FSat05Nov2016-2DIDN-2520Implementation-2520Guidelines-2520WG-2520Meeting-2Den.pdf&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=ncgc8cezf0p0sr7_0b9V7E7dzqrd5wG1t7GNC_VFAkk&s=ytnegf_XLdHKYMjxp36nYW7l65X7q0lUbmJjwhxtCQY&e=">
transcript[schd.ws]</a> of the session for details.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Repertoire may contain code points AND code point sequences. So recommendations should be worded accordingly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Align definitions of label dispositions with those in RFC 7940 and clarify the label disposition state changes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Use of LGR (as a black box) should be explained in the guidelines to generate disposition and variants of a label</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">The relationship to root zone LGR and scope of guidelines may be clarified. Can anything be said for root zone LGR, i.e. how second level and root level LGRs are same or different?</span>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">We clarify how a particular point may be different at second level, from the root zone, in order to actually clarify the second level handling of that issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:1.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">And if there are two LGRs that are in the same zone, even if it’s in the second level, they may have some harmonization requirements that are not really optional for a workable and secure system, which
is different from parallel TLDs; Definition of a variant of a code point is unique and shared across all LGRs within a zone (within a single TLD)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We would now like to resume our calls. I will schedule on for the coming week.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] IMPORTAN: ICANN 57 presentation and working draft document available for circulation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The updated <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_IDN_IDN-2BImplementation-2BGuidelines-3Fpreview-3D_56144699_63146672_IDN-2520Guidelines-25204.0-252020161102.pdf&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=ncgc8cezf0p0sr7_0b9V7E7dzqrd5wG1t7GNC_VFAkk&s=dNrzSGxmcilZ25LUpPQHgBGiFA821L8UHbCtBPOudUc&e=">
document[community.icann.org]</a> has been uploaded to the IDNGWG <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_IDN_IDN-2BImplementation-2BGuidelines&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=ncgc8cezf0p0sr7_0b9V7E7dzqrd5wG1t7GNC_VFAkk&s=G13Tyw3lvWWTnDXJhQXTvkhQr0oAf3uo0V9Iwbl4qao&e=">
wiki page[community.icann.org]</a> and the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__schd.ws_hosted-5Ffiles_icann572016_bb_ICANN57-2520IDNGWG.pdf&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=ncgc8cezf0p0sr7_0b9V7E7dzqrd5wG1t7GNC_VFAkk&s=OvAzUtI3TdhzPInX75-4zE_llvq8dmffiNcrF4UOSLM&e=">
presentation[schd.ws]</a> has been uploaded in the ICANN 57 schedule page for this
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session[icann572016.sched.org]</a>. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please share with your colleagues and encourage them to come attend the
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session[icann572016.sched.org]</a> and provide feedback.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 02, 2016 10:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tan Tanaka, Dennis <<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As there is no additional feedback, we will finalize the document based on Dennis’ comments and upload to the wiki page for sharing with community members.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tan Tanaka, Dennis <<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear Dennis, thank you for your detailed feedback and suggestions. “Cont.” means “continued”. I put that in as we have partially discussed (and have one recommendation) on IDN Variant Labels and may do further
work on this topic. For other topics, not yet discussed, I have put in “TBD”. We do not have a target date at this time, but that is something we can discuss and decide.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear all, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">please use the document with the edits by Dennis for any further suggestions.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>From:</b> Tan Tanaka, Dennis [<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 29, 2016 1:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Please find enclosed proposed edits and questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Good work!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">-Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>
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</b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, October 28, 2016 at 12:17 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Idngwg] FEEDBACK REQUESTED: IDNGWG meeting notes 27 Oct. 2016 + ICANN 57 presentations</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Your feedback is requested especially on items 2 and 3 below by 1 Nov. before posting and circulating for ICANN 57.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Summary of our meeting on 27 October 2016 (docx + pdf). Please let me know in case of any changes.
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</span></span><![endif]>Updated Guidelines document (docx + pdf), also published at our wiki page (to be circulated to the community on 2 Nov.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>The two updated presentations based on the discussion during the call (please see the attached meeting notes for the changes made)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The attached notes of the meeting, the recording of the meeting and the Guidelines document are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_IDN_IDN-26-2343-3BImplementation-26-2343-3BGuidelines&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=0s4VGJ7b2ZJHFldc1msrR-YjtmEkBg1rh_xnqDgFfYQ&e=">
https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines[community.icann.org]</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Our next meetings are planned during ICANN 57, per the following details:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">There is a 1hr15min face to face meeting of IDNGWG as per the following schedule:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:red">Sat, 5 Nov., 1100-1215, Granite (Novotel):
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<span style="color:red">(</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann572016.sched.org_event_8cwK_internationalized-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dimplementation-2Dguidelines-2Dworking-2Dgroup-2Dmeeting&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=zgPMEX5eMSCnN5IqguaD8S-EghsVb8dUvqNgUH_E9VE&e=">https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8cwK/internationalized-domain-name-implementation-guidelines-working-group-meeting[icann572016.sched.org]</a><span style="color:red">)
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:red">Sun, 6 Nov., 0830-0945, MR 1.02:
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<span style="color:red">(<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann572016.sched.org_event_8dPX_internationalized-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dprogram-2Dupdate&d=DQMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&m=Qaz7xa6tzQ0-XnTwc7LN0KGJdoV_PhzNwZEeuUL02Dk&s=BXKiCME9zeQt7rL5hawMUEqqR4AnRIQDRAlfT_fu64I&e=">https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8dPX/internationalized-domain-name-program-update[icann572016.sched.org]</a>)
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