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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'> Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@registry.asia] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tan Tanaka, Dennis' <dtantanaka@verisign.com>; 'Sarmad Hussain' <sarmad.hussain@icann.org><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Idngwg] Text for email to SSAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>Fine please invite them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>I am unfortunately not able to join today's meeting. Am in Bangkok at the APrIGF meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>Edmon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW'> <a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Idngwg<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] Text for email to SSAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>I’m fine with the proposed text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Thanks, Sarmad.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>-Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'><<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, July 24, 2017 at 2:49 PM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Text for email to SSAC</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Dear IDNGWG members, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Following our discussion, here is a draft email to be sent to invite SSAC members to a discussion on “non-authoritative” records in a TLD zone. Please feel free to make any edits. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>===============<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Dear SSAC colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>You may know that a revised draft of IDN Implementation Guidelines recently underwent a <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/idn-guidelines-2017-03-03-en">Public Comment</a>. In a <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-idn-guidelines-03mar17/2017-March/000000.html">comment</a> submitted by Hugo Salgado from NIC Chile (.CL), it has been suggested to clarify the difference between “the use of IDN labels inside a TLD zone [from] records that are not-authoritative, like NS names and glue records."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>It further suggests that “a TLD can pose rules and restrictions for labels in the second (or third) level, but not downside and ‘sibling-side’. So my TLD can restrict a certain unicode point for registration purposes, but it could exist inside the TLD zone as an NS name in a level below the TLD as a glue record, and can exist at another TLD as a delegation, over which we don't have any jurisdiction.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>“As an example, if I'm the registry of .example TLD and we don't allow U+00E1 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE, we can't prohibit a record like:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> allowed.example. IN NS á.allowed.example<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> á.allowed.example. IN A 192.0.2.1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>and certainly we can't prohibit a delegation to other TLD:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> allowed.example. IN NS á.cl”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>The IDN Guidelines Working Group (IDNGWG) has found the comment significant. IDNGWG would like to get SSAC’s opinion on whether records which are “not-authoritative” should also be constrained to comply with IDNA2008 by the IDN Guidelines. If SSAC considers this relevant, IDNGWG would request for assistance from SSAC to suggest appropriate language for such a guideline.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>We would like to invite relevant SSAC member to join IDNGWG during one of its weekly call, held on Thursdays at 11am UTC. IDNGWG can organize a call on a different day/time if suggested schedule is not suitable for SSAC. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>We look forward our to your confirmation. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Regards,<br>IDN Guidelines WG members<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>========<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Sarmad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>