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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FYI: The report on the PC has been sent for posting.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Tan Tanaka, Dennis [mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 08, 2017 9:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>; idngwg <idngwg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ext] Re: [Idngwg] Public Comment Response by IDNGWG - last call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m good with the redlines. Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:55 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Public Comment Response by IDNGWG - last call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please find attached the updated response to the public comments, as per the discussions of the WG.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am attaching the redline version, which shows the history of the changes. However, please make any changes in the clean version so that these
are more clearly visible. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have asked the Public Comment team if the report is Ok to publish in the format attached. I will let you all know their response once I hear
back from them. In case the prescribed format is required, I will move the comments in blue to the next section, else this is the final draft version.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We will be submit the report for posting on Monday morning pacific time (11 Sept.) after incorporating any final feedback.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you for the great effort you are all putting in. Looking forward to any final input on this report.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> Mats Dufberg [<a href="mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se">mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 08, 2017 1:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>>; idngwg <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>>; Feher, Kal <<a href="mailto:Kalman.Feher@team.neustar">Kalman.Feher@team.neustar</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ext] Re: Proposed new CL1 and CL2 Analysis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">My updated proposal is that we give the same reply to both comments, and that we use Kal's text with slight modification and an addition:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CL1: A clarification is suggested regarding the use of IDN labels inside a TLD zone for records that are not-authoritative, e.g. the NS and glue records. So a TLD can restrict a Unicode
point for registration purposes, but it could exist inside the TLD zone. So “labels inside a zone” should be clarified to mean “labels of authoritative names inside a zone”.
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CL2: Add a new guideline: "a TLD can't restrict the codepoints of names inside its zone for</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">which
it's not authoritative (such as delegations to sibling zones or glue records names), but should check such labels are syntactically valid U-labels (in RFC7940 sense)".</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">CL1 and CL2 Analysis:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"> This is a useful observation and the WG agrees that
the IDN label the guidelines are currently referring to names being registered under the TLD in question. We plan to clarify the scope of the document to indicate that only the owner-name of the DNS records which are added to the zone file by the registration
system are in-scope. Excluded from scope are any glue records and right-hand or target names.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">We have, however, asked SSAC for advice, and if they have a different opinion we will consider adjusting the Guidelines accordingly.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Mats Dufberg</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">DNS Specialist, IIS</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Sarmad Hussain <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday 7 September 2017 at 21:30<br>
<b>To: </b>Mats Dufberg <<a href="mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se">mats.dufberg@iis.se</a>>, idngwg <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Proposed new CL1 and CL2 Analysis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Mats, all,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">>>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">CL2 Analysis: The WG has come to the conclusion that that is out of scope of the Guidelines.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">We have written to SSAC and we may be expecting a response from them in the context, as we discussed briefly today. In case we do get some language from SSAC as requested,
and WG does consider to include it, this response may not accommodate that scenario.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mats Dufberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> idngwg <<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] Proposed new CL1 and CL2 Analysis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Current:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">CL1 Analysis: This is a useful observation and the WG agrees that the IDN label the guidelines are currently referring to are those which are
authoritative in the zone. We will clarify this is meant by default and call out any specific reference to non-authoritative data in the guidelines explicitly to ensure there is no ambiguity.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Proposed:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">CL1 Analysis: This is a useful observation and the WG agrees that the IDN label the guidelines are currently referring to names being registered
under the TLD in question. We will clarify that this the scope of the document, and that DNS records as such are only in-scope when there is direct connection to the registered name.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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