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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>&lt;<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Sarmad Hussain &lt;<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, 19 October 2017 at 07:56<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>&quot;Tan Tanaka, Dennis&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Idngwg] [Ext] Re: Update draft &#43; PC2 call &#43; ICANN 60 presentations<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Dear WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">We have not heard back from other members. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Please advise if we are ready to proceed with the public comment announcement or you would need more time for review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">
<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tan Tanaka, Dennis &lt;<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>&gt;;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idngwg] [Ext] Re: Update draft &#43; PC2 call &#43; ICANN 60 presentations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Thank you Dennis and sorry for the confusion caused due to the two versions. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">I have taken the version with your feedback and added the PC2 paragraph in the beginning to represent the complete document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">I am attaching the latest version which we will take forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">I will incorporate any feedback sent in by others on this or any of the earlier versions circulated. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Looking forward to any final feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"> Tan Tanaka, Dennis [<a href="mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com">mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sarmad Hussain &lt;<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>&gt;;
<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ext] Re: [Idngwg] Update draft &#43; PC2 call &#43; ICANN 60 presentations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Sarmad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I did minor edits to the version enclosed, then I noticed there was another version with the added PC2 paragraph (i.e. nic chile and “x” question). I’m good with this addition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Dennis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Sarmad Hussain &lt;<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org">sarmad.hussain@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, October 16, 2017 at 4:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Idngwg] Update draft &#43; PC2 call &#43; ICANN 60 presentations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">In drafting the explanation for “uniform” in Guideline 13 in the Additional Note II, we should consider another scenario not yet captured but needed in the uniform
 treatment of variants across the IDN Tables.&nbsp; </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Thus, I have suggested additional text in the Additional Note II (ii) in the updated version 2.9-redline attached.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">As an explanation, consider the scenario:
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Suppose a registry creates two IDN Tables, one exclusively for Traditional Chinese and other exclusively for Simplified Chinese.&nbsp; If the additional text is not
 there the registry could potentially allocate the TC and SC versions of labels to different registrants.&nbsp; With the proposed text, the variant code points will need to be reviewed for both SC and TC together so even with such IDN Tables, the variant labels
 for SC and TC will go to the same registrant.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">The same case can occur in Arabic script.&nbsp; If we have Arabic Kaf (‘k’
</span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">ك</span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:JA"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">U&#43;0643)
 in Arabic language table and Persian Kaf (‘k’ </span><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">ک</span><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:JA"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">U&#43;06A9)
 in Persian language table, then the identical labels </span><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">کتاب</span><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:JA"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">and</span><span dir="RTL"></span><span lang="EN-US" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="RTL"></span></span><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:JA">كتاب
</span><span dir="LTR"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><span dir="LTR"></span>(kitab – book) could be allocated to different registrants.&nbsp; If these are harmonized to be uniform, as described, such cases will be prevented.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">This case does not seem to be captured elsewhere in the guidelines.&nbsp; I think this was originally intended, but when we specified the definition of “uniform”, we
 did not capture this part.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Kindly see if this version 2.9 is agreeable to proceed (with any further edits suggested) or should we take version 2.8 further.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Regards,<br>
Sarmad</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarmad Hussain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:idngwg@icann.org">idngwg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idngwg] Update draft &#43; PC2 call &#43; ICANN 60 presentations</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for the amazing work all of you have done in finalizing the Guidelines document!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">As discussed, we will conduct a second public comment on this document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">Following the IDNGWG meeting on 12 October, please find attached the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span lang="EN-US">Call for second public comment (PC2)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span lang="EN-US">Updated draft of the guidelines (updated redline version &#43; PC2 clean version)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span lang="EN-US">Updated ICANN 60 presentations (detailed for 90 min session on 29 Oct. &#43; short for 7 minute update on 1 Nov.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">(corresponding PDF versions also attached on request)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">I have added only two specific questions at the top of the guidelines document: one on scope and other on value of X.&nbsp; Kindly confirm that these are Ok, and please share if you would like to add
 any additional specific questions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">As discussed, second public comment call and corresponding document will be sent in for publication on 18 October, so please share any
<i><span style="color:red">feedback before 0500 UTC 18 Oct</span></i><span style="color:red"> (please make changes directly in the documents)</span>.&nbsp; It will be useful to get your confirmation even if you do not have any suggested changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">As usual, the recording of the call is available at the wiki page
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_IDN_IDN-2BImplementation-2BGuidelines&amp;d=DwMFAg&amp;c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&amp;r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm-mxd028M4&amp;m=psZrPi04OpZy2zYuUYGSomCxurkdBugJeqIN31z4UUc&amp;s=SRrRz2lBwei_6_lLDzFWZdrAv06f9FrzPDZr-kbBOqg&amp;e=">
https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN&#43;Implementation&#43;Guidelines[community.icann.org]</a> and the notes will also be available there soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<br>
Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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