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      <p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
            style="mso-bidi-font-style:
            normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><i><b>We
                  submit the following comments (below and attached) to
                  the EWG on the issue of a single, Centralized
                  Database.</b></i><i><b><br>
                </b></i><i><b><br>
                </b></i><i><b>Sincerely,</b></i><i><b><br>
                </b></i> <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
                  style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kathy
                    Kleiman<br>
                    Tamir Israel<br>
                    Milton Mueller<br>
                    Roy Balleste<br>
                    Robin Gross<br>
                    Avri Doria<br>
                    Marie-Laure Lemineur</span></i></b></span></i></b></p>
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                style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
                  style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Peter
                    Green<br>
                    Edward Morris <br>
                    All members of the NCSG</span></i></b><br>
            </span></i></b></p>
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******************************************************************************************************<br>
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      <p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i
            style="mso-bidi-font-style:
            normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We
              Object
              to a Centralized Whois/Registrant Data Database and Ask
              the EWG to Share its Alternative
              Plans B and C<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We do not
          understand how the EWG arrived at a Centralized Database of
          all Personal
          Information in the gTLD Domain Name Space &#8211; and accordingly we
          object.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In all
          our years of working on the Whois issues in the NCUC and NCSG
          (and the conflict
          dates back to the founding years of ICANN), we never
          envisioned such a dramatic
          change in the location and availability of the data.<span
            style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>We raise the following
          questions that we feel
          it is incumbent on the EWG to answer publicly and fully before
          moving forward
          with any Centralized Database theme :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">How
          has the EWG justified the Centralized Whois database in light
          of the limited scope
          and mission of ICANN?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>ICANN
          was severely
          criticized in the past for plans that took it too deeply into
          operational
          activities and away from its more limited mandate of
          management, oversight and
          multistakeholder governance (e.g., the ill-fated DNS-Cert
          plans of 2010).<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>In
          light of ICANN&#8217;s mission being confirmed
          as a narrow one, how can such a Centralized Database fit?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"
        style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">A
          Centralized Database raises infinite problems for ICANN and
          the ICANN Community.
          A principal issue is the removal of the personal data of the
          Registrants from the
          jurisdiction in which it was collected and under the laws by
          which it is
          protected. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"
        style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;
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            style="mso-list:Ignore">c)<span style="font:7.0pt
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">A
          Centralized Database requires a harmonization of laws that
          does not yet
          exist.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>Not all law
          enforcement agencies
          are equal; not all requests are legal; not all allegations are
          valid.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>A Chinese
          government requesting the personal
          data and physical location of a pro-democracy dissenter in the
        </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">US</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> (perhaps one
          with family still in
        </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family: Calibri">China</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span
          style="font-size:
          14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">) may not be entitled to this
          information under
          national and international law. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"
        style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">A
          Centalized Database creates a security nightmare as the
          personal data of 120
          million+ gTLD Registrants is available for hacking and
          harvesting by those
          expert in such illegal activities. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"
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          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri">How
          have the risks of the Centralized Database been vetted from a
          privacy point of
          view, a jurisdictional point of view, a security point of
          view, a human rights
          and freedom of expression point of view?<span
            style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
          </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><b
          style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
          normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;
              font-family:Calibri">What were Plans B and C?<span
                style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
              </span><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><b
          style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
          normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;
              font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></i></b></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri">In the shadow of PRISM, the entire world
          is talking about
          the failings and problems of Centralized Databases which
          contain treasured
          personal data:<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>security,
          stability,
          hacking, internal abuse and external abuse concerns all come
          into play, as well
          as the separation of personal data from its legal and
          jurisdictional
          protections. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><b
          style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
          normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;
              font-family:Calibri">We ask the EWG to openly and fully
              share what other plans
              it has been considering and evaluation.<span
                style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri">Clearly, the EWG is evaluating certain
          principles worthy
          of ICANN Community embrace (including the identification and
          accountability of
          those accessing Registrant data).<span
            style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>But this
          principle, and others proposed by the EWG, have many
          implementations,
          permutations and variations.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri">For purposes of accountability and
          transparency, and for
          the ICANN Community to assist the EWG in this difficult
          process, we need to
          know: what other plans (e.g., Plans B and C) did the EWG
          consider in keeping
          with the principles and goals the EWG is recommending? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
          style="font-size:14.0pt;
          font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><b
          style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
          normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;
              font-family:Calibri">Together we should evaluate whether
              such Plans B and C
              offer increased benefits and decreased costs and risks
              compared to the Controversial
              Centralized Database.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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            normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></i></b></p>
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