[Internal-cg] Coordination Group, 2 weeks after London.

Paul Wilson pwilson at apnic.net
Tue Aug 5 20:03:37 UTC 2014


Firstly, we certainly need to establish clear decision making protocols both face-face and online.  I personally did not think we have a clear enough protocol in London, and this case only proves it.

Second, while I did hum for 3 co chairs in London, my understanding at that time was that we were only considering the number (3 vs 2), and that the structure was to be subsequently decided, whether during the meeting or later.  We did not make that subsequent decision in London, and I personally did not have a position on it at the time.

But I believe we now have a decision, and I support the outcome of 1 Chair plus 2 Vice-Chairs; so I also ask that we move on, on that basis.  

Paul.




On 5 Aug 2014, at 4:06 am, Milton L Mueller <Mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

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>> Maybe this precedent offers us a way forward.  We can have a chair and two
>> co-chairs.
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> I agree, and I was a supporter of 3 co-chairs. I found Alissa's compromise acceptable because, while 3 co-chairs had the most support, it also had the most people who "couldn't live with it."
> This way, we get 3 chairs but a clearer status differentiation between them, satisfying both camps.
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>> This is exactly where I perceived the discussion to be going before the latest
>> intervention by ALAC. 
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> I have to agree that the last intervention by _one_ of the ALAC representatives (which is not the same thing as an "ALAC" intervention) did not help to move us forward. 
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> As someone who has been analyzing and writing peer-reviewed scholarly publications on the "wider picture" and the "geopolitical challenges" of US unilateral control since 2001, I do not think it advances the work of the ICG to focus on those kinds of issues, unless one can show how it is related, clearly and directly, to specific decisions the ICG needs to make; i.e., to the activities in the charter. 
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> I think we flirt with divisiveness when we imply that people who happen to be of a certain citizenship are agents or supporters of their government's position, particularly when people from civil society or the technical community are involved. FYI, I have been criticizing US unilateral control and organizing opposition to it before some of us here knew what ICANN was. During the previous administration this did not make me friends in Washington, and that had its costs. So I don't appreciate being subjected to charges that I am not sensitive to those issues.
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> If there is an imbalance in the ICG composition, it is Western vs. non-Western. In other words, a European co-chair would maintain the imbalance just as much as an American one. But, as I said in London, competence and confidence among the ICG is the top priority to me. Citizenship diversity is desirable but cannot be the sole, overriding criterion, and there are other relevant forms of diversity (e.g., cultural/linguistic, gender, stakeholder group).
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> It's time to move forward on the chair issue. It is not a high-stakes political decision but primarily a practical one. How we solicit and handle proposals, especially when the level of consensus is unclear, will prove to be far more consequential than this stuff. We are diverting our attention from more important things.
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> Milton L Mueller
> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> Internet Governance Project
> http://internetgovernance.org
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