[Internal-cg] Participation in ICG - 6 points to reach consensus on

[Patrik Fältström]

Alissa,

According to the conclusions below I have now added access to the Dropbox for the following by sending invitations to them:

Elise, Kuo-Wei, Theresa, Ergys, Alice, Jim, Hillary and Samantha.

   Patrik

On 11 Aug 2014, at 22:44, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:

> Thanks for spearheading this, Patrik.
> 
> Looking at the thread here, it appears we have consensus to move forward.
> There is broad agreement on your first five points below. I chatted
> offline with Milton about #6 and I think we can all live with option D on
> the condition that all file revisions must be done with track changes
> turned on. So please go ahead and implement the appropriate Dropbox
> permissions.
> 
> Thanks much,
> Alissa
> 
> On 7/30/14, 5:35 AM, "Patrik Fältström" <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> 
>> Alissa,
>> 
>> My summary of the feedback is as follows.
>> 
>> I created the proposal and because of that of course stand behind all
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> In addition, I have seen feedback from:
>> 
>> Adiel Akplogan
>> Joseph Alhadeff
>> Lynn St.Amour
>> Manal Ismail
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>> Milton Müller
>> Jon Nevett
>> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>> Paul Wilson
>> 
>> I.e. 10 people I know the view of.
>> 
>> Everyone of those commenting agree with the following 6 suggestions for
>> the first 5 issues:
>> 
>>> 1. Members and liaisons to ICG
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: When consensus is to be reached, consensus is only among
>>> members (not members+liaisons).
>>> 
>>> 2. Support staff
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: We accept the proposal from ICANN to until further notice
>>> from ICG continue with this set of support staff: Theresa, Ergys,
>>> Alice, Jim and Hillary.
>>> 
>>> 3. Interim appointed GAC member
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: The IGC thank Tracy for the ability to participate.
>>> 
>>> 4. Minutes of our meeting
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: We postpone discussion on minutes and otherwise record
>>> taking of our future meetings to the discussion on the Secretariat.
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: Until minutes from first meeting are complete, Sam
>>> Dickingson should be treated as support staff (together with Theresa,
>>> Ergys, Alice, Jim and Hillary).
>>> 
>>> 5. ICANN backup contacts
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: We support ICANN in this proposal, thanks Jamie and Grace
>>> for their ability to help, and I validate the situation that they have
>>> been removed from the mailing list and that way got special treatment
>>> compared with other ICANN staff.
>> 
>> For the last issue, regarding "write access" to our documents the
>> feedback is split.
>> 
>> First a reminder what I wrote:
>> 
>>> 6. Write access to our documents
>>> 
>>> Everyone is to be given read access to our documents. Question is who
>>> should get read/write access.
>>> 
>>> We have a number of alternatives here, and which one we choose depends
>>> on what answers we get on the questions above.
>>> 
>>> Alternative A: Members only
>>> 
>>> Today members of ICG do have write access, and update of documents
>>> there depends on members doing explicit actions.
>>> 
>>> Alternative B: Members + liaisons
>>> 
>>> To make feedback loop from liaisons easier, we also give write access
>>> for liaisons. This do give ability for liaisons to write in documents,
>>> which might be preferable for example in the form of change tags in
>>> Word documents.
>>> 
>>> Alternative C: Members + Support Staff
>>> 
>>> By letting support staff write to documents members will be relieved
>>> from the task of updating documents and otherwise do purely
>>> administerial tasks.
>>> 
>>> Alternative D: Members + Liaisons + Support Staff
>>> 
>>> A merge of alternative B and C. In reality it implies (given my
>>> suggestion on issue 5 above finds consensus in ICG) that all members of
>>> this mailing list do get read/write access to the documents.
>>> 
>>> Suggestion: Alternative D, i.e. all Members, Liaisons and Support
>>> Staff get read/write access to our documents.
>> 
>> Out of the individuals I have heard from, I have the following feedback,
>> in order depending on how supportive the individuals are of D and other
>> alternatives:
>> 
>> D, with additional information that in practice it is the only workable
>> alternative:
>> 
>> Patrik Fältström
>> Paul Wilson
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>> Lynn St.Amour
>> 
>> D, without any details:
>> 
>> Jon Nevett
>> Manal Ismail
>> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>> 
>> D, with the constraint that it must be possible to trace who made what
>> change:
>> 
>> Joseph Alhadeff
>> 
>> Prefer C, but can live with D:
>> 
>> Adiel Akplogan
>> 
>> Against D, and instead prefer A:
>> 
>> Milton Müller
>> 
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>>   Regards, Patrik
>> 
> 
> 

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