[Internal-cg] ICG Secretariat Round #2

Daniel Karrenberg daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Tue Aug 19 09:29:58 UTC 2014

On 15.08.14 14:56 , Patrik Fältström wrote:
> ...
> I also support independence from ICANN, but I am also trying to be pragmatic and realistic on both how long it would take to get the secretariat in place, what risk it is that it does not turn out well, that we still need good staff at ICANN working on behalf of and with ICG, and finally, that "independence" for me implies the secretariat works on behalf of and on directions from ICG, and only ICG.
> Because of this, organisational independence from ICANN I see as a requirement that have lower priority than for example control over the actions the secretariat do, and most important is that the secretariat actually works. That what ICG asks for is happening.
> So no, I do not feel I am specifically attached to the idea that ICANN should run the secretariat.
> I am though *extremely* concerned over the risk that we for a few months (or even weeks) would have a secretariat that do not work.
> To the degree I would accept having ICANN continue to run the secretariat for the ICG. As long as the staff we have working for ICG is as independent as they have proven to be so far.

I fully agree with Patrik. We need a working secretariat and the current
arrangements including the assurances by ICANN are good enough for me.

Let's move on!



The arrangements we already have are working. ICANN has pledged that
they will provide them under full direction of the ICG. Under these
arrangements we can ask ICANN at any point to hire temporary contractors
for any work we consider to need that kind of independence; we can then
also ask to have a say in the selection.

I still firmly believe that if we desire more independence than that,
the only way is to organise a secretariat that is fully independent from
ICANN and takes no funding from ICANN. As long as ICANN funds and
contracts there will be no true independence from ICANN. Any efforts at
artificially creating a perception of independence will only take time
and energy while having no real effect.

So the real choice is this:

*Either* we take the offer of ICANN Staff under our direction with
temporary contractors when needed *or* we organise our own secretariat.

If we want to do the latter I suggest we ask another friendly
organisation to do this possibly in the manner Hartmut has suggested and
we collect funds around the table if this organisation cannot fund it
themselves. Strawmen: ISOC, RIRs, some names club. This will not take
much more effort than organising the ICANN funded option and provide
true independence.


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