[Internal-cg] Proposed agenda for meeting on Sep 6

Tue Sep 2 09:23:46 UTC 2014

Dear Kavouss,

Words chosen like you here do does not help our process move forward. We are working together, and that implies we also when we might disagree with each other must act in a constructive manner.

Can you please be more specific on which one of your proposals where disregarded and ignored?

I did respond to your and other's suggestions, responded with what action I took related to them. If you or someone else do believe I did draw the wrong conclusions, just speak up and let the group know what the counter proposal is.

   Patrik

On 2 sep 2014, at 12:14, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Patreik
> I am disappointed
> Once again what I proposed was disregarded
> I still believe that they were valid
> Pls reconsider that and do not ignor that
> Regards
> KAVOUSS
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-09-02 6:43 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>:
> Wolf-Ulrich,
> 
> With that agenda item I was thinking of giving the ability for ICG members to report back "what they see is happening" in the community. It was intentionally not specific. I.e. I felt we should have some time on the agenda where it was possible for ICG members to talk about the world outside of ICG.
> 
> If specific ICG members want to say something, let me know and we will that way see how much time we can allocate per such "reporting back" sub-section.
> 
>    Patrik
> 
> On 2 sep 2014, at 01:39, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> I’m fine with your agenda and Manal’s addition. I also agree to keeping an eye to best clustering.
>>  
>> Re community updates: do you refer to those “communities” listed in the ICG members list?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>> 
>>  
>> From: Patrik Fältström
>> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 11:40 PM
>> To: Kavouss Arasteh
>> Cc: Coordination Group
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Proposed agenda for meeting on Sep 6
>>  
>> Dear Kavouss,
>>  
>> Regarding your proposals. The schedule of events is part of the timeline, and I interpret your suggestion regarding "ICANN Enhanced Accountability Process" being what Manal already proposed.
>>  
>> Regarding your request for confirmation for for example the three chair/vice-chair positions not bee needed, as we neither as you say had 100% voting, nor will we have 100% participation at this meeting. We will never have 100% participation in any kind of participation. And that is why I personally am extremely careful of in a context like ICG (or similar to it) talk about a certain percentage be needed to reach a conclusion.
>>  
>> If we have consensus, within an announced timeline, then we have reached a conclusion.
>>  
>> The rest are implementation details.
>>  
>>    Patrik
>>  
>> On 1 sep 2014, at 21:07, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Patrik
>>> Yes I also agree with Manal .In addition we need to examine the relation between the Enhanced ICANN Accountability and activities of ICG as referred to in the Charter
>>> I have made some suggestions .I have made some changes as attached
>>> KAVOUSS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2014-09-01 17:45 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se>:
>>> Joseph,
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the suggestion. Let me think about this. It is important we cluster things the right way so that we also at the same time have time to actually walk through the full agenda. Clusters makes us save time.
>>>  
>>>    Patrik
>>>  
>>> On 1 sep 2014, at 14:50, joseph alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The only question I would have is should we move the consensus process document to be closer to the RFP discussion...
>>>> On 9/1/2014 7:15 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attached is a proposed agenda for the meeting on September 6.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please come back with feedback on this list.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Regards, Patrik Fältström
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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