[Internal-cg] consensus building

[Martin Boyle]

Dear all,

I have gone through the comments – on many of which I am entirely neutral and commented.  There are a few where I have concerns and I mark them accordingly.

Hope this helps

Martin

From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com]
Sent: 04 September 2014 08:34
To: Joe Alhadeff; jjs
Cc: Martin Boyle; Coordination Group
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building

Dear All,
In order to facilitate your tasks
I have included my earlier amendment in the doc. as labeled V5  rev ka 04 Sept  as attached
Kavouss

2014-09-04 5:51 GMT+02:00 Joe Alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com<mailto:joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com>>:
I think there are perhaps two amendments I would suggest to Martin's comments.

1.  Quorum as a concept should probably be more clearly applied only to voting/ultimate decision-making.  In its normal usage it also applies to when a meeting can be held based on attendance of members.
2.  I agree that operational communities have a special role, but also believe that we need to consider all communities.  Is there a way to keep the text as is and address Martin's concern in IV instead?

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk<mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk>
To: alissa at cooperw.in<mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>, Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de<mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben at t-online.de>, internal-cg at icann.org<mailto:internal-cg at icann.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building
Thank you Alissa: this reflects my concerns well. I note that we did this discussion entirely by e-mail, so I can understand how Wolf-Ulrich missed it. I have a couple of other comments - all are in the marked-up draft attached and placed in drop-box. Best Martin -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 03 September 2014 11:29 To: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben; internal-cg at icann.org<mailto:internal-cg at icann.org> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building Wolf-Ulrich, Thanks for your work on this. On 9/2/14, 1:19 AM, "WUKnoben" wrote: > >* “small minority”: should further be discussed. I added > the condition that a recommendation is not reached if at least one of >the ICG > communities (according to the list) as a whole is firmly and formally >opposed. > That would mean a formal written objection by the community >leadership on > behalf of their community. > I’m not sure this matches what was being discussed on the list. If we use the text Martin had suggested, I think the third bullet under section 4(b) should read: "After enough time has passed for the ICG to consider and attempt to accommodate objections, the ICG can reach a conclusion if at most a small minority disagrees and their objections have been documented. It is not expected that the representatives of an operational community significantly and directly affected by a conclusion would be overruled in this process.” Alissa _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg at icann.org<mailto:Internal-cg at icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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