[Internal-cg] IETF assessment

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Mon Feb 2 09:25:45 UTC 2015

I do not think that we could or need to interprete  what is "
This is a term used by ICANN, USG and others to claim that nobody is
Now we want to interprete what does it means
Let us not get into a new round of unnecessary discussion  .$
I fully agree with Milton Analysis

2015-02-02 9:15 GMT+01:00 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>:

> On 2.02.15 3:41 , Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> ... I think the IETF process was very open but struggled with
>> inclusiveness. There is a distinction between the two.  ...
> Openness is much easier to judge objectively than inclusiveness.
> Inclusiveness is a very subjective concept. It is not uncommon for lack of
> effort to participate by some group to be 'justified' by lack of
> inclusiveness by a community.
> Daniel
> someone who supports quite successful bottom-up community processes for a
> living
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