[Internal-cg] IETF response to ICG

[Lynn St.Amour]

I like and support Milton's proposal.   It will help us move the process forward while providing appropriate "oversight" of our reviews.

Lynn

On Jan 9, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> I find myself in the middle ground on this discussion. 
> 
> I don't think it is appropriate for people who were actively engaged in developing a proposal, and who come only from the affected operational community, to be the ONLY ones evaluating it for the ICG as a whole. That lack of objectivity will not have the legitimacy we need. 
> 
> On the other hand, I think it is important for someone who understands how the proposal evolved and why certain decisions were made to be present during the evaluation. So I would call for both types of parties to play a role in the initial evaluation, rather than excluding one or the other. 
> 
> --MM
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-
>> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:48 PM
>> To: Alissa Cooper
>> Cc: ICG
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IETF response to ICG
>> 
>> I have an alternative suggestion, that the ICG members from the proposal's
>> community could carry out the assessment as required in Step I, and
>> document thoroughly and specifically how the proposal satisfies the given
>> criteria (i.e. A1/2/3 and B1/2/3).  This is something that can be done much
>> more readily and thoroughly (IMHO) by ICG members who already
>> understand the proposal fully.
>> 
>> This initial assessment (to be produced by say 30 Jan) would then be
>> reviewed by the rest of the ICG, and discussed in detail during the face-face
>> meeting on Feb 6/7 in Singapore.
>> 
>> And I assume Step I will have some kind of formal "sign off" by the ICG as a
>> whole before we move on to Step II (whether we do that in Singapore or
>> later).
>> 
>> Does that make sense?
>> 
>> Paul.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On 7 Jan 2015, at 8:58 am, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you, Jari.
>>> 
>>> It would be great if we could get some volunteers to conduct Step I of the
>> finalization process <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-
>> transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf> for this proposal, say
>> within the next 2 weeks. Please respond to the list if you're willing to conduct
>> this assessment.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alissa
>>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko at piuha.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> As you know, the IETF has been working on the protocol parameters
>>>> aspects of the transition. We created the IANAPLAN working group,
>>>> developed a proposed response, and held community discussions.
>>>> And of course, there has been a lot of past evolution in this space
>>>> as well.
>>>> 
>>>> This part of the process is coming to an end from our side. Our
>>>> steering group, the IESG, approved the proposed response on December
>>>> 18, and after some minor editorial changes, the document has been
>>>> formally approved today, January 6.
>>>> 
>>>> The link to our proposal is below, and we look forward to working
>>>> with the ICG and other communities on the next steps. We are
>>>> committed to ensuring a good outcome for the Internet in this topic.
>>>> 
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09
>>>> 
>>>> Jari Arkko
>>>> 
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