<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Couple of thoughts:</div><div><br></div><div>I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.</div><div><br></div><div>I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.</div><div><br></div><div>If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.</div><div><br></div><div>I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.</div><div><br></div><div>Alissa</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div><div>On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.<div><br></div><div>:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Kuo Wu</div><div><br><div><div>Wu Kuo-Wei <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Patrik,<div><br></div><div>Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.</div><div><br></div><div> :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Kuo Wu</div><div><br><div><div>Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se">paf@frobbit.se</a>> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.</div><div><br></div><div> Patrik</div><div><br>On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <<a href="mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com">kuoweiwu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=big5">Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)<div><br><div><div>WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div>see my comments in red</div><div> </div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<br><br></div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: tahoma;"><div> </div><div style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><div><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mueller@syr.edu" href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">Milton L Mueller</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM</div><div><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">internal-cg@icann.org</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Colleagues:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">3 types of meetings:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 20.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Face to face (F2F)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 20.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Conference calls<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 20.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>-<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Email List traffic<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Proposal:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August<font color="#ff0000">: fix 1 call for end of August<o:p></o:p></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.25in;">- charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Open</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.25in;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#ff0000">or in connection with any IETF meeting?</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>ICANN LA meeting.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><font color="#ff0000"><o:p></o:p></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">CG could make a presentation to a plenary session<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Conf calls November, December, January, February<font color="#ff0000">: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Open </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>4.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;">Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>5.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Conf call in April</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Open</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>6.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" dir="ltr" link="#0563c1" vlink="#954f72" style="font-family: TamilMN; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"><span>7.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Conf calls in June, July</div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; 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