<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Alissa,</div><div>What about the Vice chairs</div><div>'</div><div>Kavouss</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-11 21:34 GMT+02:00 Jon Nevett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@donuts.co" target="_blank">jon@donuts.co</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Agreed. It appears that we have consensus with just a few holdouts. Let's move on. Thanks. Jon<br>
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On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I would also support the consensus call here. I believe the overwhelming majority of the group supports 1+2, and that the minority objections to it pertained to regional/citizenship diversity. I thought that these concerns had been met by the withdrawal of K. Drazek as a candidate and the understanding that the +2 would be from different regions.<br>
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> --MM<br>
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>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-">internal-cg-</a><br>
>> <a href="mailto:bounces@icann.org">bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper<br>
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:48 PM<br>
>> To: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques<br>
>> Cc: ICG<br>
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Jean-Jacques,<br>
>><br>
>> On 8/11/14, 8:31 AM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <<a href="mailto:jjs@dyalog.net">jjs@dyalog.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Sorry Alissa,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm afraid there is neither clarity nor consensus on the way forward on<br>
>>> this point, and that the deadline will have to be extended.<br>
>><br>
>> As interim chair, I made the consensus call last week, in my email below.<br>
>> It continues to stand, and I believe I have the support of the bulk of the<br>
>> group behind me. Consensus involves accommodating objections to the best<br>
>> extent possible while maintaining broad support within the group. It does<br>
>> not require unanimity and cannot be held up by a small minority of objectors.<br>
>><br>
>> So we are on track to get the selection going once the deadline expires later<br>
>> today.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Alissa<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Best regards,<br>
>>> Jean-Jacques.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ----- Mail original -----<br>
>>> De: "Alissa Cooper" <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br>
>>> À: "ICG" <<a href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org">internal-cg@icann.org</a>><br>
>>> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 17:24:34<br>
>>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward<br>
>>><br>
>>> Reminder: People who wish to volunteer for a chair role need to do so<br>
>>> by<br>
>>> 23:59 UTC today, Aug 11. I believe the current list of volunteers is as<br>
>>> follows:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben<br>
>>> Patrik Fälström<br>
>>> Mohamed El Bashir<br>
>>> Alissa Cooper<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Alissa<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 8/7/14, 10:57 AM, "Alissa Cooper" <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in">alissa@cooperw.in</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks to everyone for engaging on the topic of chair structure.<br>
>>>> Taking in all of the in-person and email discussion thus far, I think<br>
>>>> we have a viable path forward. My observations are:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 1. In response to the compromise I suggested on July 31 [i], the group<br>
>>>> demonstrated broad support for a 1+2 structure, with an objection from<br>
>>>> Jean-Jacques and ALAC. This included support from people who had<br>
>>>> previously stated preferences for other structures, and even support<br>
>>>> from people who had previously said they could not live with 1+2. This<br>
>>>> is what some people might call “consensus” and what I would normally<br>
>>>> describe as “rough consensus” in support of 1+2.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2. We have very strong support for a “1+something” chair structure,<br>
>>>> following the recent mail from Jean-Jacques [ii]. I don’t think we<br>
>>>> have anyone objecting to 1+something at this point.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 3. We have had lengthy discussions on the list about geographic<br>
>>>> diversity. We have very strong support in the group for having<br>
>>>> geographically diverse participation throughout the stewardship<br>
>>>> transition plan development process. We have differences of opinion<br>
>>>> within the group about the extent to which that diversity must be<br>
>>>> required to extend to the chairs of the ICG.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 4. We have a demonstrated need to agree within the ICG about the<br>
>>>> methods, both electronic and in-person, that we will use to arrive at<br>
>>>> and judge consensus within this group going forward.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Taking the above into consideration, let's proceed as follows:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Go forward with a 1+2 structure — 1 chair and 2 vice-chairs. I believe<br>
>>>> the current list of people who have volunteered to serve in these<br>
>>>> roles<br>
>>>> is:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Russ Housley<br>
>>>> Patrik Fälström<br>
>>>> Mohamed El Bashir<br>
>>>> Keith Drazek<br>
>>>> Alissa Cooper<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (I do not think we need re-confirmations from the above people because<br>
>>>> they have mostly re-confirmed already on the list at some point over<br>
>>>> the last several weeks, but if any of the above listed people wants to<br>
>>>> withdraw, please say so.)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Taking the suggestion from Jean-Jacques, I think we should give people<br>
>>>> a few more days to volunteer. So if you would like to volunteer,<br>
>>>> please make that known on the list by August 11, 23:59 UTC.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On August 12, Joe, who previously agreed to detail the chair roles and<br>
>>>> run the selection process [iii], and Wolf-Ulrich, who has agreed to<br>
>>>> help Joe while Joe is traveling, will launch the selection process. In<br>
>>>> making their selections, ICG participants should take the geographic<br>
>>>> diversity discussions we’ve had into account.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Joe and Wolf-Ulrich will also begin drafting a proposal that describes<br>
>>>> the methods the group will use for arriving at and judging consensus<br>
>>>> going forward, and will make that proposal available to the group for<br>
>>>> discussion when it is ready.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Alissa<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [i] <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html" target="_blank">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [ii] <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html" target="_blank">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [iii] <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html" target="_blank">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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