<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Joseph</div><div>Thank you very much for the addition.</div><div>However, having carefully read what was added ,I believe ,we may not need to talk about  &quot;C<font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">ultural</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">differences</span><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">and</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">language </span>barriers,&quot;due to the fact that </font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">1. It is quite clear that members of ICG certainly have <font color="#222222" face="Arial">&quot;C</font><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3">ultural</font></font></font></span><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">différences&quot;</span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">2. Who and on what bais one could judge that another person has &quot;<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">language </span>barriers,&quot;since people express themselves differently and with differnt Policy and or diplomacy. Consequently different ways of expression or making statement should not be interpreted as &quot;<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">language </span>barriers,&quot;. It would be inappropriate that someone make such value judgement </span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">3. Statement is statement and should normally follow some code of conduct and not be made in a manner that someone lese interpreted as being &quot;</span><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">disrespectful</span> or <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">inappropriate&quot; </span></span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">We are member of ICG and should limit ourselves to the scope of that Group and perhaps avopid to get into schology of human being</span></span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">I therefroe request you to kindly reconsider your addition with a view to decide that it may not be nessary as it may lead to further disdagreement .</span></span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">What did you decsribes .in fact, is correct but we may not need to pronouce it</span></span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">Regards</span></span></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size="3"><span style="letter-spacing:3.65pt"><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">Kavouss </span><span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"></span></span></font></font></font><font color="#000000"><font size="3"></font></font><font size="3"></font></font></div>
<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-31 11:28 GMT+02:00 joseph alhadeff <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com" target="_blank">joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>I have added some proposed edits and comments.  I agree that we
      have too many terms<big> </big>that have too flexible an
      interpretation.  I also think the document is lost in the
      comments.  Can we move a next draft forward that tries to
      incorporate some of these comments and allows us to better
      consider flow and duplication?</p><div><div class="h5">
    <div><small>On 8/31/2014 4:52 AM, Kavouss
        Arasteh wrote:<br>
      </small></div>
    <blockquote type="cite"><small>
      </small>
      
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div><small>Dear All,</small></div>
        <div><small>Now that we have reconciled on RFP as announced by
            Alissa to have been finalized </small></div>
        <div>I want to come back to come back to Consensus Building.</div>
        <div>I the meantime I have amended the proposals that I made
          based on some comments and attached here for your kind
          consideration as ka v3 </div>
        <div>Regards</div>
        <div>KAVOUSS </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-30 23:10 GMT+02:00 Martin Boyle
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote">
            <div lang="EN-GB">
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Alissa,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks for this: I can’t say
                    any of these changes really make much difference to
                    the text as far as I am concerned so, although I
                    still would prefer the original wording I’m ok to
                    accept them all.  I’d note that on page 2 the first
                    sentence in the first paragraph under I does not
                    read right to me:  should it read “…and that all
                    interested parties *<b>should</b>* get involved…”? 
                    But please do not hold this up this draft any
                    further on my account.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>On your “separate point,” I
                    would agree that there needs to be a certain time
                    lapse between drafts to allow for all comments to
                    come in.  Two days can actually mean only a day and
                    a half with time-zones and accidents on time of
                    posting.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I’d go back to a point that
                    NZ-Keith made about decisions on conference calls
                    and re-think it for discussion drafts – that there
                    should be time for proposals and counter-proposals
                    on any draft, followed by a complete clean copy
                    incorporating any amendments from the discussion. 
                    The important stage is how long a clean draft is on
                    the table without any further comments before it is
                    adopted:  could we make it 3 days for this phase
                    (unless all protagonists in the discussion have
                    agreed with the suggested compromise), which allows
                    for peoples’ absences or travel schedules? 
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>But more important is, let’s
                    try not to rush from one draft to another unless
                    there is a good reason (like the page is getting too
                    cluttered to read)?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>And let us all also remember
                    that we all have our own views and that these will
                    often be at odds:  when we propose a change, there
                    should be a decent time for others to consider this
                    idea and to formulate a response.  I have been in
                    the position where I have been drafting a commentary
                    on one draft when the next has dropped into the
                    box:  very frustrating!  But also, this is not very
                    conducive to coherent discussion.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Martin</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                        [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alissa Cooper<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> 30 August 2014 19:13<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh; Coordination Group</span></p>
                    <div>
                      <div><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] RFP -
                        publishable draft?</div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavouss, all,</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Attached and in dropbox
                          are v14-alc-ka-alc and v14-alc-ka-alc-clean.
                          These contain the changes suggested by Kavouss
                          and the “light-handed” compromise suggested by
                          Milton. As soon as we get the link to the
                          centralized information portal from Alice
                          (which we need on page 1 of the RFP), we’ll
                          get the secretariat to post this version on
                          the web site and make an announcement.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>On a separate note, it
                          might make sense to spend a little time at the
                          Sept 6 meeting talking about expectations for
                          people’s response times to emails, document
                          reviews, etc. As I have already noted on this
                          list, in my opinion allowing at least 48 hours
                          for responses during the week and 72 hours for
                          responses over a weekend is justified by the
                          fact that we are all busy people volunteering
                          our time for this activity. In the case of
                          this particular document, the edits from
                          Kavouss arrived in my inbox at 5:30am in my
                          time zone on Friday, while I was asleep. I
                          woke up a few hours later, answered some other
                          emails (since I knew we wouldn’t have the
                          portal link ready before I got on my flights
                          to Turkey) and left for the airport to travel
                          to Istanbul at 9:00am. I spent 24 of the 26
                          hours since then in transit. If people expect
                          faster response times, that is something we
                          should discuss as a group.</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks,</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Alissa</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>On 8/30/14, 5:36 AM,
                            &quot;Kavouss Arasteh&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Alissa,</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please advise
                              whether or not after several support to my
                              proposal as contained/ mentioned in rev 2
                              that I did send you three days ago , v14
                              is now amended or not</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Regards</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavouss
                            </span></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>2014-08-30 14:31
                              GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;:</span></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear All,</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>My rev 2 doc.
                                    relating to amenfment to v 14 of
                                    Draft RFP has not been taken into
                                    account</span></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I think it is
                                  not fair withourt examining a
                                  proposal  to ignor it</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>kavouss
                                </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span><img></span></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>----------
                                      Forwarded message ----------<br>
                                      From: <b>Kavouss Arasteh</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      Date: 2014-08-30 14:30 GMT+02:00<br>
                                      Subject: Fwd: [Internal-cg] RFP -
                                      publishable draft?<br>
                                      To: Coordination Group &lt;<a href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">Internal-cg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <br>
                                    </span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                          All,</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>My rev
                                          2 doc. relating to amenfment
                                          to v 14 of Draft RFP has not
                                          been taken into account</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I think
                                          it is not fair withourt
                                          examining a proposal it should
                                          be ignored</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavouss
                                        </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>----------
                                            Forwarded message ----------<br>
                                            From: <b>joseph alhadeff</b>
                                            &lt;<a href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com" target="_blank">joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                            Date: 2014-08-30 11:35
                                            GMT+02:00<br>
                                            Subject: Re: [Internal-cg]
                                            RFP - publishable draft?</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>To:
                                              Kavouss Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                              <br>
                                            </span></p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Off
                                                list:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                I&#39;ve lost a bit of the
                                                thread...<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Which of your proposed
                                                edits s the one that
                                                hasn&#39;t been properly
                                                accounted for?<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Joe</span></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>On
                                                      8/30/2014 3:31 AM,
                                                      Kavouss Arasteh
                                                      wrote:</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                                          All,</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                                          Alissa</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>What
                                                          Milton agreed
                                                          was on
                                                          consensus
                                                          building
                                                          process and
                                                          not on RFP .</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>What
                                                          we are talking
                                                          here is RFP. I
                                                          have made some
                                                          changes which
                                                          are not of
                                                          editorial
                                                          nature but
                                                          essential.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>There
                                                          are
                                                          inconsistencies
                                                          in the v14 as
                                                          I have
                                                          indicated.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          have sent that
                                                          twice and I
                                                          request to be
                                                          considered
                                                          before being
                                                          published as
                                                          draft .</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          am not in the
                                                          little group
                                                          nevertheless
                                                          the amendment
                                                          that I have
                                                          proposed are
                                                          essebntial.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>However,
                                                          should every
                                                          body agree
                                                          that the draft
                                                          should be
                                                          published I
                                                          have no
                                                          problem
                                                          provided that
                                                          everybody
                                                          understand
                                                          that the
                                                          amendments
                                                          proposed by me
                                                          are still
                                                          valid and to
                                                          be considered.</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          have informed
                                                          in different
                                                          manner
                                                          </span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Regards</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavouss
                                                          </span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>2014-08-30
                                                          9:29 GMT+02:00
                                                          Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;:</span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                                          All,</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
                                                          Alissa</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>what
                                                          Milton agreed
                                                          was on
                                                          consensus
                                                          building
                                                          process.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>What
                                                          we are talking
                                                          here is RFP. I
                                                          have made some
                                                          changes which
                                                          are not of
                                                          editorial
                                                          nature but
                                                          essential.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>There
                                                          are
                                                          inconsistencies
                                                          in the v14 as
                                                          I have
                                                          indicated.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          have sent that
                                                          twice and I
                                                          request to be
                                                          considered
                                                          before being
                                                          published as
                                                          draft .</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          am not in the
                                                          little group
                                                          nevertheless
                                                          the amendment
                                                          that I have
                                                          proposed are
                                                          essebntial.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>However,
                                                          should every
                                                          body agree
                                                          that the draft
                                                          should be
                                                          published I
                                                          have no
                                                          problem
                                                          provided that
                                                          everybody
                                                          understand
                                                          that the
                                                          amendments
                                                          proposed by me
                                                          are still
                                                          valid and to
                                                          be considered.</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          have informed
                                                          in different
                                                          manner
                                                          </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Regards</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavouss
                                                          </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>2014-08-30
                                                          7:06 GMT+02:00
                                                          Paul Wilson
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:pwilson@apnic.net" target="_blank">pwilson@apnic.net</a>&gt;:
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                                          am keen to
                                                          publish the
                                                          draft, as a
                                                          draft, soon
                                                          please.  It
                                                          doesn’t need
                                                          to be
                                                          perfected
                                                          before we do
                                                          that.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          For the record
                                                          I agree with
                                                          Kavouss’
                                                          suggestions,
                                                          as amended by
                                                          Milton, and
                                                          happy for
                                                          these to be
                                                          included<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          thanks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Paul.<br>
                                                          <br>
________________________________________________________________________<br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 30 Aug
                                                          2014, at 4:26
                                                          am, Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          &gt; Milton,<br>
                                                          &gt; Thank you
                                                          again for yr
                                                          analysis<br>
                                                          &gt; Yes I
                                                          could make a
                                                          consensus with
                                                          your last
                                                          suggestion<br>
                                                          &gt; Pls go
                                                          ahead and I
                                                          thank you for
                                                          that.<br>
                                                          &gt; By the
                                                          way do you
                                                          know any ting
                                                          about a book
                                                          published in
                                                          70 s about
                                                          that group?<br>
                                                          &gt; tks and
                                                          have a nice
                                                          week-end ,if I
                                                          do not hear
                                                          from you<br>
                                                          &gt; Kavouss<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;
                                                          2014-08-29
                                                          20:12
                                                          GMT+02:00
                                                          Mohamed El
                                                          Bashir &lt;<a href="mailto:mbashir@mbash.net" target="_blank">mbashir@mbash.net</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                          &gt; After
                                                          reviewing
                                                          Kavouss RFP
                                                          updates, I
                                                          prefer to keep
                                                          the text &quot;
                                                          light
                                                          coordination
                                                          role&quot; and I am
                                                          fine with the
                                                          rest of the
                                                          updates .<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; We
                                                          suppose to
                                                          finished and
                                                          published the
                                                          RFP yesterday,
                                                          I propose move
                                                          ahead and
                                                          publish the
                                                          latest version
                                                          as agreed
                                                          before the
                                                          IGF.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Kind
                                                          Regards,<br>
                                                          &gt; Mohamed<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; On 29 Aug
                                                          2014, at
                                                          19:47, Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh &lt;<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Dear
                                                          Manal<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; ,<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; I am
                                                          not pointing
                                                          toward any one
                                                          who made the
                                                          suggestion
                                                          that the
                                                          adjective &quot;
                                                          Light &quot; being
                                                          added to the
                                                          word or term &quot;
                                                          Coordination &quot;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; I am
                                                          just saysing
                                                          that ICG tasks
                                                          . interalia,
                                                          is to
                                                          coordinate the
                                                          activities .<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; This
                                                          does not any
                                                          thing to do
                                                          with TOP down
                                                          or button up
                                                          process .Just
                                                          it does not
                                                          feet. It give
                                                          the impression
                                                          that the
                                                          activities of
                                                          ICCG on this
                                                          matter is a
                                                          light
                                                          activitiwes
                                                          and not a
                                                          complete and
                                                          in-depth<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Tks<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Kavouss<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          2014-08-29
                                                          19:10
                                                          GMT+02:00
                                                          Manal Ismail
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; This
                                                          was not the
                                                          intention of
                                                          course .. I
                                                          have inserted
                                                          this clause
                                                          “in order to
                                                          help ICG
                                                          maintain its
                                                          light
                                                          coordination
                                                          role” as I
                                                          thought 2
                                                          things would
                                                          make it more
                                                          convincing for
                                                          non-operational
                                                          parties to
                                                          work through
                                                          the
                                                          operational
                                                          communities
                                                          processes:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; -   
                                                                to make
                                                          sure the ICG
                                                          does not have
                                                          a top-down
                                                          decision-making
                                                          authority, and<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; -   
                                                                to make
                                                          sure their
                                                          contributions
                                                          are considered
                                                          early within
                                                          the process,
                                                          and directly
                                                          discussed with
                                                          the relevant
                                                          party<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Just
                                                          thought to
                                                          clarify, but
                                                          I’m flexible
                                                          should
                                                          colleagues
                                                          feel it does
                                                          not serve the
                                                          purpose of the
                                                          first bullet
                                                          ..<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Kind
                                                          Regards<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          --Manal<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; From:
                                                          <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                          [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          On Behalf Of
                                                          Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Sent:
                                                          Friday, August
                                                          29, 2014 6:45
                                                          PM<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; To:
                                                          Milton L
                                                          Mueller<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Cc:
                                                          Coordination
                                                          Group<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [Internal-cg]
                                                          RFP -
                                                          publishable
                                                          draft?<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Dear
                                                          Milton,<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Thank
                                                          you very much
                                                          for your kind
                                                          response .You
                                                          are among the
                                                          most
                                                          knowledgeable
                                                          and competent
                                                          as far as I
                                                          understand the
                                                          exchange of
                                                          message.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Pls
                                                          kindly note
                                                          that the term
                                                          LIGHT before
                                                          coordination,
                                                          weakenes our
                                                          actions .It
                                                          could be
                                                          interpreted
                                                          that the
                                                          coordination
                                                          actions that
                                                          we undertake
                                                          is not
                                                          sufficiently
                                                          serious as it
                                                          is qualified
                                                          by the
                                                          adjective
                                                          LIGHT.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Would
                                                          it cause any
                                                          difficulty
                                                          that we delete
                                                          that and just
                                                          refer to
                                                          coordination
                                                          without any
                                                          qualification.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Regards<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Kavouss<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          2014-08-29
                                                          15:54
                                                          GMT+02:00
                                                          Milton L
                                                          Mueller &lt;<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; My
                                                          opinions
                                                          regarding
                                                          Kavouss’s
                                                          proposed
                                                          changes:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Would
                                                          prefer to keep
                                                          “light” in
                                                          there.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; OK to
                                                          remove the
                                                          word “only”
                                                          from the
                                                          paragraph on
                                                          Comments<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; OK to
                                                          replace
                                                          “direct” with
                                                          “forward”<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; OK to
                                                          replace
                                                          “encourages”
                                                          with “urges”<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Milton L
                                                          Mueller<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Laura
                                                          J and L.
                                                          Douglas
                                                          Meredith
                                                          Professor<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Syracuse
                                                          University
                                                          School of
                                                          Information
                                                          Studies<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; <a href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/" target="_blank">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</a><br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; From:
                                                          <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                          [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          On Behalf Of
                                                          Martin Boyle<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Sent:
                                                          Friday, August
                                                          29, 2014 8:46
                                                          AM<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; To:
                                                          Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh;
                                                          Daniel
                                                          Karrenberg<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Cc:
                                                          Coordination
                                                          Group<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [Internal-cg]
                                                          RFP -
                                                          publishable
                                                          draft?<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Thanks Alissa
                                                          for your work
                                                          on this.  I’m
                                                          sure we could
                                                          continue
                                                          word-smithing
                                                          this for a
                                                          long time, and
                                                          I’m happy to
                                                          go.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Kavouss’s
                                                          comment on
                                                          light:  I like
                                                          the term as it
                                                          reminds
                                                          everyone that
                                                          we are not
                                                          planning to
                                                          play the
                                                          autocrats. 
                                                          But if
                                                          non-native
                                                          English
                                                          speakers find
                                                          the meaning
                                                          obscure I’m ok
                                                          without.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Cheers<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Martin<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; From:
                                                          <a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                          [mailto:<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">internal-cg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          On Behalf Of
                                                          Kavouss
                                                          Arasteh<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Sent:
                                                          29 August 2014
                                                          13:32<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; To:
                                                          Daniel
                                                          Karrenberg<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Cc:
                                                          Coordination
                                                          Group<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [Internal-cg]
                                                          RFP -
                                                          publishable
                                                          draft?<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Dear
                                                          Alissa,<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; Dear
                                                          All,<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; I
                                                          suggest some
                                                          small
                                                          amendments to
                                                          make various
                                                          parts of the
                                                          text
                                                          consistent
                                                          with each
                                                          other<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; See
                                                          attachment<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Kavouss  the l<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          2014-08-29
                                                          13:37
                                                          GMT+02:00
                                                          Daniel
                                                          Karrenberg
                                                          &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net" target="_blank">daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; On
                                                          28.08.14 23:36
                                                          , Alissa
                                                          Cooper wrote:<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; &gt;
                                                          ...<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; &gt;
                                                          Are there any
                                                          objections to
                                                          publishing
                                                          this as a
                                                          draft (and
                                                          having the<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; &gt;
                                                          secretariat
                                                          host it on our
                                                          web site and
                                                          make an
                                                          announcement
                                                          about its<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; &gt;
                                                          existence) by
                                                          Sept 1?<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt; I
                                                          support
                                                          publishing
                                                          this as a daft
                                                          with Elise&#39;s
                                                          corrections.<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
                                                          Daniel<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;
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                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;&gt;<br>
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