<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All</div><div>I still believe that whether or nor ICG is political or non political environment we need to follow normal practices that every body else follows..</div><div>If in IETF or other ICANN constituencies that practice was not followed, it is not to me to intervene. However, as far as ICG which has been established pursuant to the announcement of NTIA( political or otherwise) we should formally approve or confirm the election or designation.</div>
<div>I am n not convinced by the argument given below </div><div>Quote</div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">" 1. I don’t see a real need to formally confirm/designate the chairs/vicechairs. This was already done with the election and the acceptance of the candidates and is hopefully reflected in the related minutes. I think we are here in a working and not in a political environment where such a formal step may be applicable."</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">Unquote</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">In the quoted paragraph it is mentioned that ' the acceptance of the candidates and is hopefully reflected in the related minutes"<br>
WHAT MINUTES.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">Dear Col;leagues</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">There was some consultations ,there was poll.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">There was some outcome .</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">Some voted .Some did not voted </div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">The results supported the Chair and two Vice chairs as contained in one of the last e-mail </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">
However, as ICG is a formal Group and its output and decisions are formal thus the designation /election of the Chair and two Vice chairs must be formally announced ,no doubt without any discussion ,what so ever ,</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">
I hope that you have now been briefed as you should be and kindlky agree to that process</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt"> Regards</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">
KAVOUSS </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">I have not seen any minute( s0 as e-mail correspondence is e-mail correspondence and in no way is to be understood to construe as " Minutes"<br>
As for SUMMARY OF DECISION or WRAP UP </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">I am happy that finally it is being accepted thus Patrik is kindly requested to include that in the agenda</div>
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It’s clear that in case of a public statement of the meeting this statement has to be discussed within the ICG. I suggest put the topic “public statement” under AOB – just as placeholder</div></div><div><br></div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-02 22:19 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>></span>:<br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">1. I don’t
see a real need to formally confirm/designate the chairs/vicechairs. This was
already done with the election and the acceptance of the candidates and is
hopefully reflected in the related minutes. I think we are here in a working and
not in a political environment where such a formal step may be applicable.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">2. I agree
that a meeting wrap-up should be done. This may be done in a written form with
bullet points. I would not ask for a document similar to the GAC communiquees
which need prior formal coordination.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Calibri";font-size:12pt">It’s clear
that in case of a public statement of the meeting this statement has to be
discussed within the ICG. I suggest put the topic “public statement” under AOB –
just as placeholder.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">Kavouss Arasteh</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 02, 2014 12:54 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="paf@frobbit.se" href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">Patrik
Fältström</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="internal-cg@icann.org" href="mailto:internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank">Coordination Group</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internal-cg] Version 1 of the agenda</div></div></div>
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<div>Dear Patrik</div>
<div>Dear All</div>
<div>I humbly and once again suggest to add the two following items to the
agenda</div>
<div>1. Confirmation/formal Designation of Chair and Vice
Chairs, at the very beginning </div>
<div>2 Approval of Summary of conclusion reached/ decision made ( this
summary should be prepared by chair and approved at the meeting) </div>
<div>Kavouss </div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-02 12:06 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">All,<br><br>Can
you who feel the most for the respective Agenda Items send me information you
have, and I will try to add to the agenda so that it is more easy to
understand. For example objectives.<br><span><font color="#888888"><br> Patrik<br></font></span>
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<div><br>On 2 sep 2014, at 12:19, Lynn St.Amour
<Lynn@LStAmour.org> wrote:<br><br>> Thanks Patrik,<br>><br>> I
think the main issues are captured.<br>><br>> Could I also suggest that
for each item, the "agenda item leader" add a short statement of what we
expect to accomplish (or a Purpose statement) as well as a link to the
appropriate documents. This will help remote participants (and may even
help the ICG focus).<br>><br>> For example:<br>><br>> - IANA
Functions Transition Request for Proposals
“RFP”<br>> Objective:
Approve
RFP<br>>
Approve
Timeline<br>>
etc…<br>> Best,<br>> Lynn<br>><br>><br>> On Sep 2, 2014, at
12:47 AM, Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>>
All,<br>>><br>>> Thanks for the comments. Version 1 of the agenda
is just released where I have tried to move things around, re-allocated time
slots etc according to the feedback.<br>>><br>>> I have still not
validated time for lunch, coffee break and translators. Those outside events
might impact time allocation.<br>>><br>>> Patrik<br>>>
<Agenda ICG meeting Istanbul-v1.doc><br>>>
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