<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Mary </div><div>Thank you for your message</div><div>I sent you what was generally agreed at the meeting of 11.</div><div>I do not see any reason why I should do differently.</div><div>It was agreed that </div><div>1. We no longer refer to quorum</div><div>2. No longer about the criteria to be used for decision making in terms of 1/2.2/3 or ...</div><div>3. We concentrate that the objective is consensus building for every thing</div><div>4. in rare cases of disagreement, chair with the assistance of vice chairs make every and utmost possible effort to find solution</div><div>5. If all efforts to do so are exhausted, we make all possible efforts to explore all possible ways and means to reach agreement take the case by case approach in a case by case approach </div><div>6. at the end one possible, among others, is mentioned to resolve a case given .i.e. the resolution of disagreement was left an open issue to be treated case by case according to the nature of the problem .</div><div>7 All pending amendments which were placed in square bracket are thus to be deleted and the text is editorially amended ( replacing " personnel " by administrative and so on and restructured as mentioned above </div><div>That is all </div><div>Kavouss </div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-07 2:21 GMT+02:00 Mary Uduma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span>Jari , Arasteh and All,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div></span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Kindly
make it easier for us to follow the trend of discussions with correct documents. I was about to congratulate the Group
of 11 (G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old
version of the document. It is a bit confusing.<br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>I
think we have progressed positively with the G11's version and formulations, please let
us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members are
errand boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any part
of the proposal to NTIA is with each of the communities. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>In addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor edits and remove some redundant words and paragraphs like:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">1. Purpose:<br>" Laison " should read 'Liaison' in the second paragraph.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">2. Individual/Group Behavior and Norms:<br> Last paragraph 1st sentence should read : <br clear="none"> </span><br clear="none"><span><span><span style="line-height:115%;font-size:12pt">Public<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> comments</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">received</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">as</span> a <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">result</span> of<span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt">
</span>any <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">forum</span>
held by the ICG in relation to it<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">s activities</span> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:2.75pt"></span> should be<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> duly</span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">considered</span><span style="letter-spacing:0.1pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">and</span>
<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">carefully</span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">analyzed.</span> <span style="letter-spacing:0.4pt"><span></span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"><br clear="none"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.1pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:3.85pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.1pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:4.35pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span></span><br clear="none"></span></span></div>
<span style="line-height:115%;font-size:12pt">3. Last para in 4b after the bullet points should read <br>''Following
these basic principles, the<span style="letter-spacing:-0.1pt"> </span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">chair</span> will be<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> </span>responsible<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> for <span style="color:rgb(205,35,44)">designating</span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.15pt"> </span>each ICG position <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">as</span><span style="color:rgb(205,35,44)"> <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"></span></span><span style="letter-spacing:-0.1pt"> </span>one<span style="letter-spacing:0.05pt"> </span>of<span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt"> </span>the <span style="letter-spacing:-0.05pt">following;'</span><span style="color:rgb(157,24,17)"> <br><br><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">4. 4b under Recommendation<br>......cannot be reach-.... should read ....cannot be reached.......<br>The two
paragraphs after the last bullet point are no longer necessary, they should be deleted. </span></span></span><br><br><br><font size="3">Safe trip everyone.</font><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>Mary Uduma</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br><br><br clear="none"><span style="line-height:115%;font-size:12pt"></span> <div><br><br></div><div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Sunday, September 7, 2014
2:09 AM, Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>OOOOsh!!!!</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Sleeping and typing, hit the wrong botton.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Please ignore my last unfinished mail.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Mary<br clear="none"></span></div> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:07 AM, Mary Uduma <<a href="mailto:mnuduma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mnuduma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
</font>
</div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>Jari , Arasteh and All,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Kindly make it easier for us to
follow. I was about to congratulate the Group of 11 (G11) and all ICG members when Alice's mail came in with the old version.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>I think we have progressed positively with the G11's version, please let us not go back to the old version, reason being that ICG members
are errand boys of the communities. The power to object regarding any part of the proposal to NTIA is with each communities. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>In addition, the version looks balanced, what is left will be to do the minor edits and remove some redundant words like:<br clear="none"></span></div> <div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:21 PM, Jari Arkko <<a href="mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net" target="_blank">jari.arkko@piuha.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div>And in the after-the-meeting discussion I promised to send a link to the IETF document that describes the rough consensus process. Here:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">(for the purposes of the ICG decision process, the important bit is
how we deal with differing opinions, not the humming. so read it in that light.)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Jari<div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Internal-cg mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Internal-cg@icann.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
</div></div><div> </div></div><div> </div></div><div> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div> </div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>